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Current MMA Professional Fighter Rankings — unbiased, objective, software-generated. Updated weekly, with up to 650 fighters listed per weight division.
The rankings on this site are software generated, produced by a proprietary engine (CIRRS – Combat Intelli-Rating and Ranking System) and are based only on official results. There is no human intervention involved, which means that all bouts are considered in chronological order to determine the current rankings. The idea is to provide a list that is comparable to the “popular thought” without bias. However, there are some prediction-based elements. So in summary, you could say the system is a hybrid of popular thought and prediction analysis. If you like predictions too, check out this site in order to bet with Betmgm.
The following notes are important to consider when viewing the rankings.
- These are CURRENT rankings. The more recent a result, the more impact it has on a fighter’s ranking.
- A fighter must have a professional MMA bout in the previous 450 days to be listed.
- As of 11/01/2009, current ranking points are division-adjusted. They were never and are still not division-specific. Some adjustments are made on a per-division basis to protect against inexperienced divisional outliers. The exact adjustment varies depending on divisions, recent division-specific performances and direction moved, but a male fighter moving up one division will lose approximately 17%. Male fighters will gain approximately 17% upon moving down a division. This percentage varies slightly depending on the divisions in question as well as other factors. The factor is approximately 1/2 stronger for female fighters.
- A fighter can only appear in one division at a time and is almost always placed in the division in which they last fought. It is rare, but sometimes we make exceptions if we feel that the move is temporary and the fighter accomplishes nothing there (Example: Matt Lindland jumping two divisions to lose to Fedor).
- The winner is always placed above the loser, regardless of the outcome.
- A bout’s winner can lose points, if for example, they only manage a close win over a much lower rated fighter. In addition, the loser will gain points in this scenario.
- There is a special factor involved in championship bouts for certain organizations and divisions. Historically, inclusion has been dependent on those that ensure that top-ranked competition within the respective fighter pools (typically East / West) vie for the titles on a consistent basis, which meant a maximum of 2 titles per division at any given point. This was restricted to titles competed for in divisions governed by a clear organizational leader in this division and fighter pool, where there was also clear divisional competition from other organizations in said division & pool. Moving forward from 2013, this will be restricted to 1 per division regardless of pool unless grandfathered in. This is due to the increased length of the matches, opposition obligations, and prestige of the lineage. It also helps with problems caused by global talent pool separation and assists in data confirmation. The factor applies to historical PRIDE title bouts, King of Pancrase Open-weight (until Mezger vacates), RINGS Absolute/Open-Weight Tournament Finals (until PRIDE HW title is created), Shooto (115,123,132,143), DREAM (155,185), Strike Force Women (135,145), Invicta Women (105,125,145 pre-UFC only), UFC Women (115,125,135,145), Tachi (125 / pre-UFC only), RIZIN (105). This factor CAN (but not always) result in a higher amount of combined total points. This factor was strongest prior to 2006, but has been weakened progressively since due to the decreased need as part of the reasoning for the bonus is being phased out as the pools of fighters intermingle on a more consistent basis.
- A ranked fighter may appear to lose or gain points for no reason at all. The reasons for this may include: historical bout additions & changes and/or quality performance decay penalties.
- Injury-related TKOs are not treated differently then standard TKOs. A TKO is a TKO.
- Rather than being overly concerned with the actual placement of the fighters, take a look at their points. Often times, the point differences between two rankings are very slim, and this means that their placements are really a “toss up”.
- Community adjustments will be made at the start of every half-year, starting with 2012, that will control country populations that have a propensity of being over- or underrated. Confirmation will be based on retroactive analysis of prior data. Partial adjustment will be made retroactively to past years.
- Post-rating blocking is now used to prevent losing fighters from passing above the rank of fighters who recently beat them, unless they fulfill certain requirements. Remaining blocks expire after 540 days.
- Fighters cannot be rated more than three times above the adjusted current rating of the highest rated fighter in which they beat or 1/3rd higher than that rating of the highest rated fighter in which they drew with in the past 1080 days within their current division — max penalty of 1/3rd and final rating cannot be less than 3x the starter rating. Partial credit is given in cases where close losses to quality fighters are present. This does not apply to generated ratings prior to 2004. There is also a reciprocal version of this that handles the opposite situation, but only in extreme circumstances.
- “Hometown ceiling” is in place for those in countries w/sufficient data and observed home advantages that have very little reach outside of the respective populations (aka: hardly anyone highly ranked seems to leave). Factor is very similar to the one explained above for divisional outliers.
- “Low connection” rating protection implemented on 2/23/2020 (retroactive to 2004), will ensure that fighters over 3x the starter rating fighting exclusively in very small populations have reduced rating inflation potential.
- Starting 12/14/2013, all “The Ultimate Fighter” professional exhibition bouts will be considered retroactively in the Current MMA rankings. These bouts will affect ratings at a slightly reduced amount in comparison to professional non-exhibition bouts. These bouts will not be considered in all-time rankings and bouts will not cause fighters to move divisions unless the TUF season definitively results in a new divisional champion.
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Thank you for the feedback, we had to switch for a more mobile-friendly layout as over 50% of our traffic now comes from mobile devices, but I understand that in desktop view the old layout was better. We’ll be making incremental changes to the current layout to clean up the look & feel. Do you have any specific suggestions on what we should change?
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Dear Fight Matrix-Team,
I don’t wanna be a negative Nancy, but your new layout is not as good as your old one. I thought before it looked much cleaner and the handling was much more intuitive. Other than that, keep up the good work!
Hi, I’d like u to fight cormier and see what a joke it be!!
This is my first time pay a quick visit at here and
i am actually pleassant to read everthing at one place.
Good I’m unified Mma 155lbs champ in Canada and yet not ranked. Is it possible to become ranked.
Thanks
You attack, let’s see u fight cormier,see a real joke,lol(grin).
Micah Terrill should be added to the welterweight rankings. He is 5-3 and has won 5 of his last 6 with 4 coming by way of KO. He is under contract with CFFC and will also be fighting for the inaugural Welterweight title for Shogun Fights in April 2015.
first time at the site and it looks good. Question….are there any considerations for a podcast or blogtalkradio show. That would be great with your format.
Keep up the good work!
Rico
really smell bad strikeforce right now, dana put kharitonov or fedor with cormier
http://www.fightmatrix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=606&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
okay, i’ve read through this thread and agree with the poster that the “abridged rankings”, as he calls them, are much fairer and more accurate. I think there should still be a bonus in place for title fights, to ensure that the champion remains number one.
But with MMA having now progressed to a stage where there are fighters of equal talent outside the UFC (e.g. Fedor, Overeem, Diaz, Melendez, Aoki etc.), you should consider making it a level playing field in regards to points awarded for each promotions championship fights.
Just a suggestion 🙂
Rico, thanks for the kind words. No plans for a podcast at the moment…
these are obviously not thought out rankings. because they dont even make sense. digital analysis doesnt work out.
This is the best and most unbiased website by far! And updates are regular, I wish more sites were like this!
I love this sport
Plenty has been written about this in GREAT detail in past posts and in the forum. This isn’t just an arbitrary factor to show subjective bias for a particular organization.
People dont give Lesnar enough credit, he has beaten legitimate people and has earned his number 2 ranking.
are more points awarded for title wins/defenses or is it purely based on the quality of opposition?
I’ve posted a question regarding interim titles in the Welterweight
rankings. As the UFC also has an interim at Bantamweight, however not creating the same situation, perhaps it would be good info for the readers.
“•Community adjustments will be made at the start of every year, starting with 2012, that will control country populations that have a propensity of being over- or underrated.”
Curious, what adjustments are you seeing so far based on your analysis?
Also, ever thought of doing FightMatrix-style rankings in boxing?
sts, what do you have in mind? Sign up for our forum and shoot me a PM if you’d like.
HI dude, can i post articles to your blog ? Let me know if you are interested
Jon Jones is ranked way too low! he should be above Couture easily. Randy should not be top 10 at this time. I’d also put JDS above Werdum since he beat him and Werdum beat Fedor… it’s not like JDS has lost since that time nor has Fedor beat anybody who beat him and he’s the #1 contender.
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Paulo Filho is no.12 in the LHW rankings.. I dont know why he is not in the MW list..
2 bad the no.1 pound for pounder soaks himself in crisco before every fight.
John Salgado’s record is Actually 4-2-1
Thank U
Also, Alves just lost to Fitch but still beat Hughes and Lytle which neither of them have beat a guy above Alves since so how is he ranked lower than them?
i’m confused as to why Gerard Mousasi is ranked in the heavyweight division when he has fought in middleweight and most recently lightheavyweight…and William, i don’t know where you got your information but Fedor has beaten the “Who’s Who” of MMA and has not participated in “gimmick fights”
Filho’s last few fights were at LHW.
Got it John. Will be correct on our next update.
I can’t believe Paulo Filho is not in the top 50 let alone the top 150…you gotta be kidding me!..we’re talking about a guy who had the #2 185lb spot for a long time…i understand the guy had some personal problems but COME ON!..he only lost once to a guy that he already beat..and has fought and won twice since July!
Hey, I have seen instances when you show fight breakdowns and some of the fighters rankings are lower than #250. Where do you keep that information (rankings under 250) and is it published anywhere? I’d love to see the top #1000 in a division, just for fun.
the only issue i have is the position of jorge santiago, he shouldn’t be top 5. I wouldn’t put him top 10
First of all I want to say that I think your rankings are the most accurate I’ve seen. All of your rules for ranking make sense to me except possibly the rule that “a winner is always placed above the loser”. Does this mean that if Fighter A lost his most recent fight to Fighter B he is as a rule ranked below him in the charts? For example, if the rankings after Kohsaka’s fight against Fedor Emelianenko were shown, Kohsaka would be ranked above Fedor despite the historical evidence that suggests this is inaccurate?
Patience, you must have.
fedor gets a lot of credit. he has fought some good fighters, however those at the top of the ufc have fought much better fighters more consistently,fedor fights gimmick fights and nobodys and his ranking should reflect that
Are there any JKD practitioners in MMA? I don’t ever recall anyone with JKD base in the major leagues.
Jones didn’t exactly destroy Cormier. Gustafsson-Jones, Gustafsson-Cormier, and Jones-Cormier were all very close fights.
Thank you for the feedback, we had to switch for a more mobile-friendly layout as over 50% of our traffic now comes from mobile devices, but I understand that in desktop view the old layout was better. We’ll be making incremental changes to the current layout to clean up the look & feel. Do you have any specific suggestions on what we should change?
Dear Fight Matrix-Team,
I don’t wanna be a negative Nancy, but your new layout is not as good as your old one. I thought before it looked much cleaner and the handling was much more intuitive. Other than that, keep up the good work!
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Hello! I would like to ask why do not you add fighters from Kazakhstan to your rating? Our fighters perform international tournaments very successfully every week. Here literally a few hours ago, my compatriot won his fight at TitanFC, at the tournaments Fight Nights Global, ABC, how many of my fellow countrymen are performing. There are only 19 of them on your website. Very little. Please pay attention to the question. Thank you.
Hello! I would like to ask why do not you add fighters from Kazakhstan to your rating? Our fighters perform international tournaments very successfully every week. Here literally a few hours ago, my compatriot won his fight at TitanFC, at the tournaments Fight Nights Global, ABC, how many of my fellow countrymen are performing. There are only 19 of them on your website. Very little. Please pay attention to the question. Thank you.
Yeah I would pick a football player over a basketball player in a fight…
Yeah I would pick a football player over a basketball player in a fight…
I’m bummed about Romero losing out on his title shot because of the retarded GPS-Bisping matchup.
Maia should get the next shot if he beats Masvidal. Really he should have gotten one already but the Thompson – Woodley draw screwed things up.
Werdum – Rothwell winner will most likely get the next HW shot after JDS.
I’m bummed about Romero losing out on his title shot because of the retarded GPS-Bisping matchup.
Maia should get the next shot if he beats Masvidal. Really he should have gotten one already but the Thompson – Woodley draw screwed things up.
Werdum – Rothwell winner will most likely get the next HW shot after JDS.
Not great is an understatement. It was one of the worst UFC cards ever. Fights, refs, judges, matchmaking – everything about it was a shit show. Besides Miller and Poitier, nobody involved in 208 in any capacity has anything to be proud of.
Not great is an understatement. It was one of the worst UFC cards ever. Fights, refs, judges, matchmaking – everything about it was a shit show. Besides Miller and Poitier, nobody involved in 208 in any capacity has anything to be proud of.
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Soto took that fight on less than a week’s notice IIRC. That considered he performed better than I would expect.
Soto took that fight on less than a week’s notice IIRC. That considered he performed better than I would expect.
Jones didn’t exactly destroy Cormier. Gustafsson-Jones, Gustafsson-Cormier, and Jones-Cormier were all very close fights.
Bones will be back in 7 months or so. For how long he can stay out of trouble is anyone’s guess.
Bones will be back in 7 months or so. For how long he can stay out of trouble is anyone’s guess.
Are there any JKD practitioners in MMA? I don’t ever recall anyone with JKD base in the major leagues.
Nothing about Pat Curran’s record inspires me to think he would have beat RDA or any of the LW elite…
Nothing about Pat Curran’s record inspires me to think he would have beat RDA or any of the LW elite…
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I applied a long time ago and never heard anything back from them. Won’t make a difference, really.
Have you all applied to participate in the UFC fighter rankings? This always seems to be the most sensible rankings and can easily be backed up with evidence. UFC rankings are almost always messed up in my opinion. It might not change much, but at least having these rankings in for the voting might help.
I applied a long time ago and never heard anything back from them. Won’t make a difference, really.
Have you all applied to participate in the UFC fighter rankings? This always seems to be the most sensible rankings and can easily be backed up with evidence. UFC rankings are almost always messed up in my opinion. It might not change much, but at least having these rankings in for the voting might help.
It has been updated… he does not have enough points to be ranked at this time.
It has been updated… he does not have enough points to be ranked at this time.
I was wondering when fight matrix was going to recalculate Ryan Hollis’ rank. He’s last fight was November 2014 and the last fight the site has him ranked is October 2013. Thank you. We love using the site to watch progress when his information is updated.
I was wondering when fight matrix was going to recalculate Ryan Hollis’ rank. He’s last fight was November 2014 and the last fight the site has him ranked is October 2013. Thank you. We love using the site to watch progress when his information is updated.
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Micah Terrill should be added to the welterweight rankings. He is 5-3 and has won 5 of his last 6 with 4 coming by way of KO. He is under contract with CFFC and will also be fighting for the inaugural Welterweight title for Shogun Fights in April 2015.
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Hi my name is Luke Morris
I am a FLYWEIGHT in Australia having won my last fight in March 2014 against Michael Roger who has previously defeated currently ranked FLYWEIGHT Tim Moore twice in the last 1.5 yrs.
I am just enquiring to see if I have been or can be added to the list of rankings?
Kind regards
Hi my name is Luke Morris
I am a FLYWEIGHT in Australia having won my last fight in March 2014 against Michael Roger who has previously defeated currently ranked FLYWEIGHT Tim Moore twice in the last 1.5 yrs.
I am just enquiring to see if I have been or can be added to the list of rankings?
Kind regards
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Have you ever thought about adding a little bit more
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However think of if you added some great visuals or video clips to give
your posts more, “pop”! Your content is excellent but with pics and
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I apologize Alex white is featherweight, now 5-0 and Beat Adam Ward Friday night in cage fighting events in st charles missouri. Alex was 268 and Adam was 180
I apologize Alex white is featherweight, now 5-0 and Beat Adam Ward Friday night in cage fighting events in st charles missouri. Alex was 268 and Adam was 180
Good I’m unified Mma 155lbs champ in Canada and yet not ranked. Is it possible to become ranked.
Thanks
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You attack, let’s see u fight cormier,see a real joke,lol(grin).
Hi, I’d like u to fight cormier and see what a joke it be!!
Rico, thanks for the kind words. No plans for a podcast at the moment…
first time at the site and it looks good. Question….are there any considerations for a podcast or blogtalkradio show. That would be great with your format.
Keep up the good work!
Rico
really smell bad strikeforce right now, dana put kharitonov or fedor with cormier
if zuffa buy strikeforce this organization sucks cormier vs sylvia for champion, is a joke.
cormier has afraid for kharitonov, fedor or thiago santos sylvia right now is nothing better for sylvia fight abe wagner and arlovski fight rogers, the best for cormier right now is tym sylvia jejeje who is the stupid say this
now cormier fight vs sylvia or arlovski, please more stupid idea this guys fight right now with people what his mother only know.
if zuffa buy strikeforce this organization sucks cormier vs sylvia for champion, is a joke.
cormier has afraid for kharitonov, fedor or thiago santos sylvia right now is nothing better for sylvia fight abe wagner and arlovski fight rogers, the best for cormier right now is tym sylvia jejeje who is the stupid say this
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Hello,
I was wondering if you make available the raw data used in your analyses? Is possible to get this data somewhere on your site?
Thanks…
Andrew
Hello,
I was wondering if you make available the raw data used in your analyses? Is possible to get this data somewhere on your site?
Thanks…
Andrew
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Everyone worries about promotional variances. In the past ten years it has been simple like any other sport. There was Pride then the UFC. Both organizations widely considered to be number one in the world at the time.
So the only thing that has gotten worse since those two companies seperated in muddying the waters is there was one fighter who was good enough, smart enough and greedy enough to totally take advantage of it, not look guilty about it, and make it as legitimate looking as possible. In essence Fedors number one ranking and upkeep of it has been about as honest as a door to door energy salesman. Just look at your facts soon after reading this. If you can keep your eyes to the goal and exersize in a little meatcan per ranking ratio booking strategy, with hindsight being 20/20 and this should become as clear as day. Fedor while ranked number one at the end of pride was arguable. As I would argue he is one and one with Big Nog who tapped him, but Fedor got away with it(refs fault and in my personal opinion that of rankers who don’t consider what they see on video just read on paper) Either way they very similarly ranked before that. Since then, from what we all know but experts at the time could have seen, is that Fedor took on some of the most undeveloped as mixed artist fighters he could find. Most(all)of them never to return to that ranking again. Eg; Mark Hunt. He was a hell of a kickboxer with K-1 success at the time(but who cares or otherwise Coture would still be knocked out by James Toney, lets draw the line at MMA experience being translated into rankings). Mark was ranked in the top 3 for a time. So somehow we should be basing history off of how a guy who just last year couldn’t keep from his arm broken by a submission that was too ugly to go a training video? as being the key to victory of so many points that Fedor looks like God comparitively speaking to everyone else?
Back to this Fedor rank as base of all problems, then some guys like Big Foot and Werdum get a victory over him and they are all of a sudden top ten HW’s or as we know now is not the standard for a top LHW like Hendo? Most of whom Fedor beat anyways would cause him significant damage during their losses? How else did he begin and continue to slide so bad? He single handedly abused every short sighted ranking system on the planet to build up points, mystique, hype and a paper legacy that can never be mathematically argued with until you include real life observation. Not to mention a personal bankaccount with M-1. Proof he did this on purpose was when he rejected the multi-million dollar offer he recieved to compete in the UFC and showed more interest in the terms of co-promotion than who he would be promoted against.
A blinded GSP missing cornea beat Jake Shields. Jake Shileds had to go up weight to fight Hendo at this natural weight and beat him. Hendo made Fedor look like a bum. Are you telling me that all heavyweights were ranked hundreds of points behind Fedor since Pride because they were so hand and foot behind him competing against each other was hardly worth anything, as Fedor often got smashed before finishing his fights in the mean time, it all added up from somewhere? Didn’t joe rogan say it best about Lyoto Machida. How do you have a better gameplan than that for longevity don’t get hit. Come on man he fell off faster than Chuck Liddell did with less of a fight in him and most peole have ripped Chuck left right and center. Guess what people Chuck beat Overeem and never ducked another fighter for being too anything let alone tough. And if you have to even pretend a little something else to get the point try this. Dan Henderson Pride HW, LHW, MW champ as per what happenned a few weeks ago, whats your arguements against that? Hendos age difference factor is more extreme now than it was then. It was ranking based fighter selection plus too many little kids still looking for the void left in their life from an era of watching Hulk Hogan style fights that will be Fedors place in history as the champion of giving fans worldwide as little for their monies worth as he sucked up more credit than he deserved. Spend and not earn= Bankruptcy/no strikeforce deal plus no thanks from me and let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Fedor.
Everyone worries about promotional variances. In the past ten years it has been simple like any other sport. There was Pride then the UFC. Both organizations widely considered to be number one in the world at the time.
So the only thing that has gotten worse since those two companies seperated in muddying the waters is there was one fighter who was good enough, smart enough and greedy enough to totally take advantage of it, not look guilty about it, and make it as legitimate looking as possible. In essence Fedors number one ranking and upkeep of it has been about as honest as a door to door energy salesman. Just look at your facts soon after reading this. If you can keep your eyes to the goal and exersize in a little meatcan per ranking ratio booking strategy, with hindsight being 20/20 and this should become as clear as day. Fedor while ranked number one at the end of pride was arguable. As I would argue he is one and one with Big Nog who tapped him, but Fedor got away with it(refs fault and in my personal opinion that of rankers who don’t consider what they see on video just read on paper) Either way they very similarly ranked before that. Since then, from what we all know but experts at the time could have seen, is that Fedor took on some of the most undeveloped as mixed artist fighters he could find. Most(all)of them never to return to that ranking again. Eg; Mark Hunt. He was a hell of a kickboxer with K-1 success at the time(but who cares or otherwise Coture would still be knocked out by James Toney, lets draw the line at MMA experience being translated into rankings). Mark was ranked in the top 3 for a time. So somehow we should be basing history off of how a guy who just last year couldn’t keep from his arm broken by a submission that was too ugly to go a training video? as being the key to victory of so many points that Fedor looks like God comparitively speaking to everyone else?
Back to this Fedor rank as base of all problems, then some guys like Big Foot and Werdum get a victory over him and they are all of a sudden top ten HW’s or as we know now is not the standard for a top LHW like Hendo? Most of whom Fedor beat anyways would cause him significant damage during their losses? How else did he begin and continue to slide so bad? He single handedly abused every short sighted ranking system on the planet to build up points, mystique, hype and a paper legacy that can never be mathematically argued with until you include real life observation. Not to mention a personal bankaccount with M-1. Proof he did this on purpose was when he rejected the multi-million dollar offer he recieved to compete in the UFC and showed more interest in the terms of co-promotion than who he would be promoted against.
A blinded GSP missing cornea beat Jake Shields. Jake Shileds had to go up weight to fight Hendo at this natural weight and beat him. Hendo made Fedor look like a bum. Are you telling me that all heavyweights were ranked hundreds of points behind Fedor since Pride because they were so hand and foot behind him competing against each other was hardly worth anything, as Fedor often got smashed before finishing his fights in the mean time, it all added up from somewhere? Didn’t joe rogan say it best about Lyoto Machida. How do you have a better gameplan than that for longevity don’t get hit. Come on man he fell off faster than Chuck Liddell did with less of a fight in him and most peole have ripped Chuck left right and center. Guess what people Chuck beat Overeem and never ducked another fighter for being too anything let alone tough. And if you have to even pretend a little something else to get the point try this. Dan Henderson Pride HW, LHW, MW champ as per what happenned a few weeks ago, whats your arguements against that? Hendos age difference factor is more extreme now than it was then. It was ranking based fighter selection plus too many little kids still looking for the void left in their life from an era of watching Hulk Hogan style fights that will be Fedors place in history as the champion of giving fans worldwide as little for their monies worth as he sucked up more credit than he deserved. Spend and not earn= Bankruptcy/no strikeforce deal plus no thanks from me and let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Fedor.
these are obviously not thought out rankings. because they dont even make sense. digital analysis doesnt work out.
Japan has been very overrated for the past decade or so.. but this has been retroactively adjusted.
The boxing database is too huge to fit our current model. Besides, BoxRec’s rating system (which I previously assisted on) is more than adequate.
Japan has been very overrated for the past decade or so.. but this has been retroactively adjusted.
The boxing database is too huge to fit our current model. Besides, BoxRec’s rating system (which I previously assisted on) is more than adequate.
“•Community adjustments will be made at the start of every year, starting with 2012, that will control country populations that have a propensity of being over- or underrated.”
Curious, what adjustments are you seeing so far based on your analysis?
Also, ever thought of doing FightMatrix-style rankings in boxing?
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I genuinely wish that there would be a whole lot of many other sites such as this : helpful and practical at the same time.
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okay, i’ve read through this thread and agree with the poster that the “abridged rankings”, as he calls them, are much fairer and more accurate. I think there should still be a bonus in place for title fights, to ensure that the champion remains number one.
But with MMA having now progressed to a stage where there are fighters of equal talent outside the UFC (e.g. Fedor, Overeem, Diaz, Melendez, Aoki etc.), you should consider making it a level playing field in regards to points awarded for each promotions championship fights.
Just a suggestion 🙂
Plenty has been written about this in GREAT detail in past posts and in the forum. This isn’t just an arbitrary factor to show subjective bias for a particular organization.
“There is a special factor involved in UFC title and tournament championship bouts, due to the increased length of the matches, opposition obligations, and prestige of the lineage…This factor CAN (but not always) result in a higher amount of combined total points.”
JCS, isn’t that rather biased? Why should winning a championship in the UFC give you more points? Championship bouts in Strikeforce are 5 rounds too. Surely it is the quality of opponent the fighter defeats that should determine how many points they acquire?
“There is a special factor involved in UFC title and tournament championship bouts, due to the increased length of the matches, opposition obligations, and prestige of the lineage…This factor CAN (but not always) result in a higher amount of combined total points.”
JCS, isn’t that rather biased? Why should winning a championship in the UFC give you more points? Championship bouts in Strikeforce are 5 rounds too. Surely it is the quality of opponent the fighter defeats that should determine how many points they acquire?
People dont give Lesnar enough credit, he has beaten legitimate people and has earned his number 2 ranking.
Interesting, its fun to see how site ranks differently. Your site does stand out with different rankings but with your computer logic doesn’t always make sense. Example Just because a football team goes undefeated in season does not mean they will win superbowl, same with fighters things change. I mean wins/skills and all that brock should still be ranked at max top 10 with not only 2 losses but a victory that was tainted. Along with frabico losing to jds and being higher doesn’t make sense at least compared to your ranking system. Roy neslon who easily crushes most of guys why rank him so high, just because he had couple losses, same with fedor he had a loss but your smart enough not to move him back several ranks. Then you should look at quality of fighters they fight, you did well for Overeem seeing he doesnt deserve to be in top 8, but at same time looking at couture who has not a good win in 3 years should not even be top ten anymore. To also have King mo above Jon jones is a joke its like competing patriots against browns or another horrible team. My advice to improve site is to not see it as computer does and use more logic and possible outcomes and fighters past. Because any fan can tell you Brock does not deserve to be number 2.
Interesting, its fun to see how site ranks differently. Your site does stand out with different rankings but with your computer logic doesn’t always make sense. Example Just because a football team goes undefeated in season does not mean they will win superbowl, same with fighters things change. I mean wins/skills and all that brock should still be ranked at max top 10 with not only 2 losses but a victory that was tainted. Along with frabico losing to jds and being higher doesn’t make sense at least compared to your ranking system. Roy neslon who easily crushes most of guys why rank him so high, just because he had couple losses, same with fedor he had a loss but your smart enough not to move him back several ranks. Then you should look at quality of fighters they fight, you did well for Overeem seeing he doesnt deserve to be in top 8, but at same time looking at couture who has not a good win in 3 years should not even be top ten anymore. To also have King mo above Jon jones is a joke its like competing patriots against browns or another horrible team. My advice to improve site is to not see it as computer does and use more logic and possible outcomes and fighters past. Because any fan can tell you Brock does not deserve to be number 2.
While I applaud what you are trying to achieve, I think trying to describe such events mathematically is a mistake. This is not because the site experts don’t know what they are doing. Quite the contrary. They are looking for an easy dispassionate, way to explain all they know on the subject.
The danger here is analogous to a recipe vs. Cooking. Sheet music vs. Composition. Only a computer could rank a fighter with two years experience and seven fights (5-2) in the top ten in a pound for pound like, ranking.
I’m reminded of “good will hunting” . This site is awesome. It can tell me all about ” the Sistine chapel” and everything about Michael Angelo. But it can’t tell you what it smells like to stand there. Nor can it’s description of the great mass, possibly inform us as to the true beauty when preformed by a master orchestra.
If you want facts and figures this place is awesome. I recommend it highly. But I’ve trained with a lot of these guys. And trust me when I say it’s as much about heart as it is stats. Maybe a lot more. And I assure everyone out there that if you can tell me what it smells like in certain gyms across this country, you are more qualified to rank any fighter then any computer.
Computers don’t think they just run programs. Don’t let the b.c.s problem (bachelors in computer science) influence who is truly the best.
While I applaud what you are trying to achieve, I think trying to describe such events mathematically is a mistake. This is not because the site experts don’t know what they are doing. Quite the contrary. They are looking for an easy dispassionate, way to explain all they know on the subject.
The danger here is analogous to a recipe vs. Cooking. Sheet music vs. Composition. Only a computer could rank a fighter with two years experience and seven fights (5-2) in the top ten in a pound for pound like, ranking.
I’m reminded of “good will hunting” . This site is awesome. It can tell me all about ” the Sistine chapel” and everything about Michael Angelo. But it can’t tell you what it smells like to stand there. Nor can it’s description of the great mass, possibly inform us as to the true beauty when preformed by a master orchestra.
If you want facts and figures this place is awesome. I recommend it highly. But I’ve trained with a lot of these guys. And trust me when I say it’s as much about heart as it is stats. Maybe a lot more. And I assure everyone out there that if you can tell me what it smells like in certain gyms across this country, you are more qualified to rank any fighter then any computer.
Computers don’t think they just run programs. Don’t let the b.c.s problem (bachelors in computer science) influence who is truly the best.
More points are awarded for accredited titles. Read the eigth bullet point above!
are more points awarded for title wins/defenses or is it purely based on the quality of opposition?
More points are awarded for accredited titles. Read the eigth bullet point above!
Head-to-head results only affect the rankings after that fight. Aoki’s point total simply passed Melendez’s.. Melendez hasn’t even fought since. Aoki has beaten Kawajiri and Aurelio.
As for Rizzo, he’s pretty much maxed out on rating points unless he goes into the UFC. Guys get some status with wins, but don’t challenge themselves.. and they (potentially) end up a little overrated.
Of course, I’ll look into these to see if there are any anomalies.. when I get the time.
Head-to-head results only affect the rankings after that fight. Aoki’s point total simply passed Melendez’s.. Melendez hasn’t even fought since. Aoki has beaten Kawajiri and Aurelio.
As for Rizzo, he’s pretty much maxed out on rating points unless he goes into the UFC. Guys get some status with wins, but don’t challenge themselves.. and they (potentially) end up a little overrated.
Of course, I’ll look into these to see if there are any anomalies.. when I get the time.
Your rankings are usually pretty good but some stuff doesnt make sense. Aoki should not be ahead of Melendez on account that Melendez smashed him. Also some guys are ranked way to high. For instance guys like Pedro Rizzo is still like top 20? Why because he is beating cans? If he faced anyone in the UFC and prolly Strikeforce he would lose. Theres more than 20 fighters in the UFC alone. I just want it to make more sense. Thx.
Your rankings are usually pretty good but some stuff doesnt make sense. Aoki should not be ahead of Melendez on account that Melendez smashed him. Also some guys are ranked way to high. For instance guys like Pedro Rizzo is still like top 20? Why because he is beating cans? If he faced anyone in the UFC and prolly Strikeforce he would lose. Theres more than 20 fighters in the UFC alone. I just want it to make more sense. Thx.
Also, Alves just lost to Fitch but still beat Hughes and Lytle which neither of them have beat a guy above Alves since so how is he ranked lower than them?
Jon Jones is ranked way too low! he should be above Couture easily. Randy should not be top 10 at this time. I’d also put JDS above Werdum since he beat him and Werdum beat Fedor… it’s not like JDS has lost since that time nor has Fedor beat anybody who beat him and he’s the #1 contender.
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Hey, I have seen instances when you show fight breakdowns and some of the fighters rankings are lower than #250. Where do you keep that information (rankings under 250) and is it published anywhere?
What are you confused about? Does Filho ever fight at MW anymore? When he does again, we will rank him there again.
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Hey, I have seen instances when you show fight breakdowns and some of the fighters rankings are lower than #250. Where do you keep that information (rankings under 250) and is it published anywhere?
What are you confused about? Does Filho ever fight at MW anymore? When he does again, we will rank him there again.
I’m with George on this one.. Filho should be high in the MW division for sure. Bit confused about all of this really.
I’m with George on this one.. Filho should be high in the MW division for sure. Bit confused about all of this really.
Hey, I have seen instances when you show fight breakdowns and some of the fighters rankings are lower than #250. Where do you keep that information (rankings under 250) and is it published anywhere? I’d love to see the top #1000 in a division, just for fun.
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Filho’s last few fights were at LHW.
Paulo Filho is no.12 in the LHW rankings.. I dont know why he is not in the MW list..
I can’t believe Paulo Filho is not in the top 50 let alone the top 150…you gotta be kidding me!..we’re talking about a guy who had the #2 185lb spot for a long time…i understand the guy had some personal problems but COME ON!..he only lost once to a guy that he already beat..and has fought and won twice since July!
Patience, you must have.
i’m confused as to why Gerard Mousasi is ranked in the heavyweight division when he has fought in middleweight and most recently lightheavyweight…and William, i don’t know where you got your information but Fedor has beaten the “Who’s Who” of MMA and has not participated in “gimmick fights”
fedor gets a lot of credit. he has fought some good fighters, however those at the top of the ufc have fought much better fighters more consistently,fedor fights gimmick fights and nobodys and his ranking should reflect that
the only issue i have is the position of jorge santiago, he shouldn’t be top 5. I wouldn’t put him top 10
Ben, that is correct. If we were to publish historical rankings as of 12/23/2000 (the day after the first Fedor-TK fight), TK would be ranked ahead of Fedor.
On the other hand, TK was most likely ranked ahead of Fedor even before their first fight, as Emelianenko was only 4-0 at that time.
Ben, that is correct. If we were to publish historical rankings as of 12/23/2000 (the day after the first Fedor-TK fight), TK would be ranked ahead of Fedor.
On the other hand, TK was most likely ranked ahead of Fedor even before their first fight, as Emelianenko was only 4-0 at that time.
First of all I want to say that I think your rankings are the most accurate I’ve seen. All of your rules for ranking make sense to me except possibly the rule that “a winner is always placed above the loser”. Does this mean that if Fighter A lost his most recent fight to Fighter B he is as a rule ranked below him in the charts? For example, if the rankings after Kohsaka’s fight against Fedor Emelianenko were shown, Kohsaka would be ranked above Fedor despite the historical evidence that suggests this is inaccurate?
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