Division Point Dominance

Division Point Dominance List

The division point dominance list debuted on 3/16/08, and is comparable, but not identical to a pound-for-pound list.  While a pound-for-pound list factors in divisional tenure and the ability to transcend weight divisions while remaining successful, this list does not.  This list ranks fighters based on their point level superiority over those in the division in which they are currently ranked.

This is done by averaging the point level of divisional contenders, then comparing this average to the fighter’s current point level. The higher a fighter’s division dominance points, the more “dominant” they are over their divisional peers.

One important thing to note is that there are two important factors that comprise a fighter’s division dominance rating. The strength of the division’s top fighters and the fighter’s own current rating. A fluctuation in the fighter’s rating, division strength, and/or division assignment can all result in changes to a fighter’s division dominance rating.  In addition, neighboring divisional strength has a very small effect on these ratings due to division jumpers.

As of 8/28/2011, we have added further requirements, which were modified on 6/24/2012 and again on 3/3/2015:

  • Fighter must have a win, draw, recognized title fight, or quality performance in the previous 360 days (450 if currently in “inactive decay”).
  • Fighter must have at least two wins in their listed division within the past 900 days OR be ranked #1 in their division. If only the latter part of this requirement, a penalty will be assessed up to 50%.
Issue Date: 1/29/2023 (Official Release: #851)
Rank ↑ ↓ Fighter  (Division) Record Points
1   AU Alexander Volkanovski   (FW)
Listed Since: 12/15/2019
25-1-0
869
2   MX Brandon Moreno   (FLW)
Listed Since: 6/13/2021
21-6-2
850
3   RU Islam Makhachev   (LW)
Listed Since: 10/23/2022
23-1-0
705
4   CM Francis Ngannou   (HW)
Listed Since: 3/28/2021
17-3-0
622
5   US Aljamain Sterling   (BW)
Listed Since: 4/10/2022
22-3-0
606
6 1 UK Leon Edwards   (WW)
Listed Since: 8/21/2022
20-3-0
590
7 1 BR Charles Oliveira   (LW)
Listed Since: 5/16/2021
33-9-0
586
8   BR Alex Pereira   (MW)
Listed Since: 11/13/2022
7-1-0
513
9   US Kamaru Usman   (WW)
Listed Since: 3/03/2019
20-2-0
496
10   US Dustin Poirier   (LW)
Listed Since: 1/22/2023
29-7-0
461

Issue Date: 1/29/2023 (Official Release: #851)

Previous Official Release: 1/22/2023

Fighters who have dropped out: None

Drop out symbols: * = Inactive (450d), + = Moved Divisions (Up), - = Moved Divisions (Down), % = Forced, ! = Results/Other

279 Comments

  1. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Expanding this much further takes the scope of the list outside of the boundaries of what it was developed to show.. division dominance. How dominant are fighters ranked #3 and #4?

    OH Right. Please read the info at the top of the pages. They are able to answer most of the questions you’ve asked.

  2. Tim August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Why is JSP above Fedor? he has a better record and the one fight he did lose was because of an illegal elbow.

  3. Ace August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Definately have to agree with Loco-Plata. Anderson Silva has dominated his division more then anyone on here. Several title defences and it is not his fault these other guys aren’t giving him the fight he needs. He is dominating his division so much that Dana White had to go a division higher to find him an opponent to give him a challenge or at least make an interesting fight.

  4. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Should Luciano Azeredo be ranked ahead of Jose Aldo?

  5. LOCO-PLATA August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Mike Brown shouldn’t be on this list at least not yet he’s only defended his title once at least wait till the rematch with Faber before listing him. Same thing goes with GSP I personally dont think he should be #1. If any body has shown division dominance it’s Anderson Silva he has defended his title more times than anyone else at 185. He definatly should be number 1.

  6. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    It’s nice to see Aldo getting the credit he deserves.

  7. Matt August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    I ahve a problem with lesnar ebing #3, but just because I still believe that Fedor shoudl be there. But he has earned that spot. I also don’t believ that Rua, Werdum, Cruz, or Edgar should ebt hat high. But then again who should be ahead of them. I guess what im trying to say is that I just don’t see them being dominant, and being top 10 in this list is just weird to me. But then that’s why you got to love MMA. I also think Jose Aldo should be higher. Considering he is gonna wear that belt for a long time (Faber fan, don’t liek Aldo). Featherweight sure does need to get more depth. Faber dominated that weight class, then now Aldo is going to.

  8. Jess August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    “Plus Bantamweight overall, is a weak division.”
    “Probably not, because Bowles’ next opponent is likely going to be of much higher quality than Silva or Fedor’s.”

    That’s a contradiction.

    Betting odds are based on the likelihood of a fight going one way or the other. If Bowles was more dominant in his division than Silva in his, he’d be a bigger favorite.

  9. Pat August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    I guess some people do not know what the word “division” or “dominance” means. Either that, or they just hate Brock Lesnar.

  10. Jack Bauer August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Division Dominance is a great idea.

    Everyone talks about P4P but it’s impossible to gauge fighters who stay in one division. This ranking system is very unbiased, and in my mind very accurate as well.

    It’s not saying GSP is better than Fedor, simply that he fights the best competition in his weight class.

    If I have one problem with the rankings it’s that fighters with one big win major points (ala Matt Serra) but it doesn’t reflect their overall record. Aside from that it’s my favourite unbiased ranking system. It is suprisingly accurate.

  11. Bill Hunt August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    How is DJ not at the top of this list?
    Is the number of title defenses in the formula?
    Thanks!
    Bill

  12. Duncan August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    How is the hell is michael bisping at #1? so this ranking is basically useless because there is nothing where bisping is even close to the best at and hes definitely not dominating his division.

  13. oleg August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Weird to see no heavyweights in the top 10

  14. oleg August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    I think you will find the P4P list more to your liking, and more inline with these visualizations:

    http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/pound-for-pound/

  15. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Division Dominance is more of a instant snapshot vs. P4P which is more of a cumulative effort. I say “more of” because there is some gray area where each is subject to the other influence.

  16. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    I can’t say I’m surprised with the outcome. Those two are so far ahead of the rest of the division, with (maybe) the exception of Cormier.. and with Overeem inactive, it makes sense from a points perspective.

  17. peter August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    cain on #2 with a Round 1 KO-loss in his last 3…sure why would Jones be higher than him…right?

  18. John N. August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Benavidez SHAFT!
    dufuq bruh?
    Better be back up after this mighty mouse fight.

  19. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    HW is weak..

  20. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    LOL… yeah, I figured as much.

  21. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Read the description. It’s not pound-for-pound. Cain is #2 because he is the champion of a terribly weak division.

  22. oleg August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Woah, didn’t expect to see JDS float up to the top.

  23. ltokuda August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Hi JCS,

    I’ve been researching this issue over the weekend and found some interesting results. I registered with fightmatrix.com so that I can start a thread on the discussion board but my account hasn’t been activated yet. Can you get it activated?

    Thanks,
    Lee

  24. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    I suspect that they will both remain ranked..

  25. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Peter, that results in a “top heavy” ranking. The more aged divisions will reign supreme in an astounding manner.

  26. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Hard to believe that Aldo is seventh on this list. I suppose he’ll move up a bit after he beats Florian and even moreso assuming he can beat Mendes early next year.

  27. bart August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Maybe the upcoming flyweight fights (Mighty Mouse vs McCall II, Dodson-Uyenoyama and Lineker-Gaudinot) will lower the DD ranking of Benavidez somewhat.

  28. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    I’m guessing that if Benavidez wins his next fight (against Johnson or McCall), his total points will go through the roof. But it’s true that as the division fills out a bit, his point total could drop somewhat. Still, I’d expect him to stay at #1 on the division dominance list until he loses.

  29. ltokuda August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Hi JCS,

    I think the main weakness of the Division Point Dominance rankings is that it measures a fighter against the top contenders in the division. The strength of the top contenders is largely based on how many fighters are competing at that weight. In general, the more competition you have, the stronger the division becomes. So the top 10 of a division with 10000 fighters will probably be better than the top 10 of a division with 5000 fighters. This systems penalizes fighters competing in the deeper divisions.

    I think it would be more intuitive to compare a fighter against something that doesn’t change with the population of the division. I don’t know the details of your ranking system but I would guess that using a “median” might work. I’m guessing that the “median” fighter would represent the “typical” fighter in that division. If the division grows in size, you would expect to see both an increase in the level of the top 10 and a decrease in the level of the bottom 10. But I suspect the “median” fighter wouldn’t change very much. So your P4P rankings could compare the elite fighters against a “median” to measure how far he surpasses the typical fighter.

    The median could be calculated by just ranking all the fighters in order and choosing the middle one. Or you could rank the division in order and split the them into 5 groups (quintiles). The first group contains the top 20%. The last group contains the bottom 20%. The middle group contains the middle 20%. If you take the average point value of the middle group, that should give you something close to median (but maybe with less volitility).

    Thanks,
    Lee

  30. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    I want to give people an answer that I can certify as being more objective than subjective. The system has limitations and I’m afraid this is one of them.

  31. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    I can’t wait to see how the upcoming UFC Flyweight tournament effcts these rankings.

  32. Howie August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Can you please make this a top-20 list? The most interesting part is spots 8-10. Almost all of the top 7 spots frequently just go to UFC champions.

  33. John August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Machida should be over evans. Obviously

  34. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    skwirrl, your post is a friggin joke. Fedor just got subbed by a fringe top ten fighter, while Brock has consecutive stoppages over Couture, Mir and Carwin in his last three fights.

  35. Ben August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I wouldn’t put Aldo that low or Shogun that high

  36. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    IF Velasqquez somehow manages to beat Lesnar, then he deserves to be on the division dominance list, but not until then.

  37. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I’m still waiting for the inevitable complaints concerning Lesnar moving up to #3 on this list. Personally, I have no prolems with it.

  38. ltokuda August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Hi JCS,

    Have you considered creating a real “Pound for Pound” ranking system? I notice that no matter how well the system is explained above, you are constantly having to remind people that “this isn’t a P4P list”. I think you should consider that a sign. The “Division Point Dominance” rankings are interesting, but are out of sync with what most people are looking for in a ranking system.

    At the end of the day, people are looking for a P4P list. P4P lists probably go back a hundred years in boxing. Its part of fighting history. So when you create a list that ranks fighters of different weight classes against each other, anything other than a P4P list is bound to be confusing.

    People really want to know if fighter X at lightweight is better than fighter Y at heavyweight. They want a ranking system that rewards fighters that compete against tough competition rather than punishes them. People don’t want to look at a list and have to wonder if it means a fighter is really good or his division is really bad.

    I think your ranking system for individual divisions is great. They do a good job of producing fair and intuitively reasonable results. If you can introduce a P4P ranking system along those same lines, it would be a huge improvement.

    Thanks,
    Lee

  39. ltokuda August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I understand that. But I think you can have the best of both worlds. I think you can create a ranking system that is objective and that doesn’t penalize fighters in deep weight classes. It seems like you already have most of the pieces. You just have to find something to compare an elite fighter against besides the “top contenders”. The “median” might be the answer. Or maybe there’s a better alternative. It might take some experimenting but I think its a worthwhile effort.

    I’m a big fan of this site so it pains me to see so many MMA fans trash it over the Division Dominance confusion. The divisional rankings are great but they seem to lose credibility with MMA fans because the Division Dominance algorithm produces such non-intuitive results. I can understand how a first time reader can get confused by the Division Dominance list and decide that rest of the site is not worth reading. After years of hearing the same complaints, I think its a definite sign that something has to change.

  40. Howie August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Can you post top 20 instead of just top 10? Eight spots get eaten up by the UFC/WEC champions and Fedor.

  41. Bubba August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    My Boy Cain Velasquez Deserve To Be on This!!

  42. Shut the Fitch up August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Really? Kenny?…..

    Kenny and Brock do not belong there while JrDos and Fitch have their current records.

    Benavidez is a tough call…..I have alot of respect for him, but I’d still put Shields above him.

  43. Mateo August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Why is Jake Shields on the division dominance list at 170? He just moved to this division.

  44. oc wrestler August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    i believe that jose aldo should be ahead of brock lesnar

  45. Chu August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I want to see Fedor fight a top notch Heavyweight.

  46. pikeamus August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    If Anderson and GSP both win their next matches will the gap shrink or extend? Vitor has more points (though I understand his MW points will be a little different than his LHW score) in total than Hardy but Vitor returning to MW will increase the strength of the MW division as well.

    I’d expect the gap to close, but I haven’t seen the formula used here.

  47. skwirrl August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    what a friggin joke. Fedor has 1 legit loss and has smashed 5 UFC champions and he’s not in the top 10. Brock hasn’t beaten anybody worth a hot, steaming crap.

  48. Jordan P. August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I’m personally more interested in a match between fedor and anderson silva, since anderson walks around at 215 lbs and there is no way in hell GSP can beat him.

  49. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Although Fedor had a lofty ranking, he hadn’t really beaten anyone of late to keep his spot after a 1st round submission loss to a fringe top 10 fighter.

  50. Jordan P. August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    hey jcs! i know your having trouble with the all time heavyweight division. perhaps you should divide it into heavyweight and open weight divisions so that you have to distinct criteria thus eliminating your “early 90’s no weight limit” problem.

    plus you know who is gonna be top ten in heavyweight: fedor, nog, cro cop, barnett, arlovski, randy couture, mark coleman, mir and either brock, tim sylvia, bas rutten or alistair overeem (probably brock).

    and who is gonna be top ten open weight: minowaman, sakuraba, royce gracie, ken shamrock, bob sapp, giant silva, butterbean, tank abbott, hong man choi, zuluzinho tie with kimo leopoldo. (jk about most of those except the first 4, though i wouldn’t be suprised if at least one of the other 7 i mentioned made that list, if not more).

  51. oc wrestler August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    also i think fedor should be the #1

  52. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    We don’t keep track of what bouts are open-weight. There’d probably be a Pancrase list and an everyone else list, because Pancrase is to blame for a ton of open-weight bouts.

  53. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Brock Lesnar is a Heavyweight and is compared to others in his division. Its comparable to a P4P list but not identical.

  54. Tyler August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Jordan, why should Oleg and JCS change their system to reflect what OTHER people want? If other people don’t like their site, they can make their own, or just go elsewhere. Personally I am a huge fan of what they’ve done with this site, and although there are things I might do differently, I wouldn’t be presumptuous enough to tell them what they SHOULD or shouldn’t do with their own website.

  55. Jordan Penwell August 19, 2018 at 7:57 pm Reply

    sorry but its fedor then silva then gsp. no question just stylistically and however else you can come up with. rampage should be ranked higher. definitely higher. but where is urijah faber? he just drops off the map after years of dominance?

  56. Mark August 19, 2018 at 7:57 pm Reply

    I agree with Jack 100%. Good post.

  57. Matt August 19, 2018 at 7:57 pm Reply

    Can anyone seriously argue that the heavyweight division as a whole as anywhere near the depth of the Welterweight division? With the exception of a handful of fighters the Heavyweight division is bereft of meaningful talent. That is why GSP rightfully tops this list. He dominates arguably the deepest division in the world.

  58. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:57 pm Reply

    Strengthening of the division. Torres didn’t gain a ton of points, while Mizugaki essentially stayed the same, Benavidez moved up, Tamura moved in. Had Torres stopped Mizugaki, he would not have dropped.

  59. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    This isn’t a P4P list.

    Joseph Benavidez is #1, because his point total exceeds the average Flyweight contender by a larger proportion than any other fighter’s exceeds the average contender within their respective divisions. The guy was a strong #2 in a heavier division, then moved down to a weak division. In addition, he beat a strong Flyweight in his first fight there, validating this claim.

  60. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    P4P = Subjective. We are not that. How do you equate P4P to a formula?

  61. John August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    The fact that Kenny Florian makes the top 10 of this list suggests that divisional dominance is perhaps a more misleading ranking method than pound-for-pound. There’s a plethora of welterweights, light heavyweights, and Gray Maynard who clearly belong ahead of Kenny Florian p4p.

  62. Bob August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    Sorry but this is the only P4P list that has him at #1. Every other updated list has Silva or Jones there. With Aldo and GSP trading the 3 and 4 spots.

  63. Matt August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    Great site, I check it all the time. Just noticed this though:

    “>200 – A fighter who has cleaned out the division. A true superstar. One of the era’s best.”

    And GSP has 165 points. IMO GSP has cleaned out his division, is a true superstar, and definitly one of the era’s best. Just thought I’d bring it up to get you’re reasoning on that.

    Minor dispute aside, keep up the great work!

  64. Duncan November 20, 2016 at 9:47 am Reply

    How is the hell is michael bisping at #1? so this ranking is basically useless because there is nothing where bisping is even close to the best at and hes definitely not dominating his division.

  65. Bill Hunt April 15, 2016 at 2:41 pm Reply

    How is DJ not at the top of this list?
    Is the number of title defenses in the formula?
    Thanks!
    Bill

  66. jason May 12, 2015 at 1:14 pm Reply

    Division Dominance is more of a instant snapshot vs. P4P which is more of a cumulative effort. I say “more of” because there is some gray area where each is subject to the other influence.

  67. oleg May 12, 2015 at 10:29 am Reply

    I think you will find the P4P list more to your liking, and more inline with these visualizations:

    http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/pound-for-pound/

  68. Rus May 12, 2015 at 5:45 am Reply

    This is the best site for rankings but this particular list just doesn’t seem right to me. FightsandFilm.com did some great visual breakdowns of weight divisions. Looking at LHW and MW in particular:

    John Jones has 7 wins over fighters in the top 15 in the Light Heavyweight division.
    https://fightsandfilm.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/205.png

    Chris Weidman has 2 wins over fighters in the top 15 in the Middleweight division.
    https://fightsandfilm.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/185.png

    Weidman also has significantly less fights in total (and in the UFC). I read that you compare the point average of contenders with the Champion’s points. That can vary depending if you compare the top 5, the top 10, or the top 20. But just looking at the visualizations above your methodology might need some tweaking.

  69. Rus August 19, 2018 at 7:29 pm Reply

    This is the best site for rankings but this particular list just doesn’t seem right to me. FightsandFilm.com did some great visual breakdowns of weight divisions. Looking at LHW and MW in particular:

    John Jones has 7 wins over fighters in the top 15 in the Light Heavyweight division.
    https://fightsandfilm.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/205.png

    Chris Weidman has 2 wins over fighters in the top 15 in the Middleweight division.
    https://fightsandfilm.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/185.png

    Weidman also has significantly less fights in total (and in the UFC). I read that you compare the point average of contenders with the Champion’s points. That can vary depending if you compare the top 5, the top 10, or the top 20. But just looking at the visualizations above your methodology might need some tweaking.

  70. oleg March 15, 2015 at 2:29 pm Reply

    Weird to see no heavyweights in the top 10

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  73. jason April 29, 2013 at 7:20 pm Reply

    Read the description. It’s not pound-for-pound. Cain is #2 because he is the champion of a terribly weak division.

  74. peter April 29, 2013 at 6:01 pm Reply

    cain on #2 with a Round 1 KO-loss in his last 3…sure why would Jones be higher than him…right?

  75. jason January 1, 2013 at 10:45 am Reply

    I can’t say I’m surprised with the outcome. Those two are so far ahead of the rest of the division, with (maybe) the exception of Cormier.. and with Overeem inactive, it makes sense from a points perspective.

  76. ThonolansGhost December 30, 2012 at 7:21 pm Reply

    LOL… yeah, I figured as much.

  77. jason December 30, 2012 at 2:14 pm Reply

    I suspect that they will both remain ranked..

  78. ThonolansGhost December 30, 2012 at 11:02 am Reply

    I can’t wait to see where Velasquez and Dos Santos are ranked after the next update.

  79. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    I can’t wait to see where Velasquez and Dos Santos are ranked after the next update.

  80. jason December 16, 2012 at 11:30 am Reply

    HW is weak..

  81. oleg December 9, 2012 at 11:23 pm Reply

    Woah, didn’t expect to see JDS float up to the top.

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  83. jason August 26, 2012 at 8:58 am Reply

    Peter, that results in a “top heavy” ranking. The more aged divisions will reign supreme in an astounding manner.

  84. Peter August 14, 2012 at 7:50 am Reply

    Have you tried running your algorithm on all the data as if it were one big weight class? I feel that should generate a fairly accurate p4p ranking, most dominant fighters should emerge on top no matter their weight. From this ranking you can then merge out the weight classes. Fighters can be listed in more than one weight class that way (for instance Jake Shields).

  85. Peter August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    Have you tried running your algorithm on all the data as if it were one big weight class? I feel that should generate a fairly accurate p4p ranking, most dominant fighters should emerge on top no matter their weight. From this ranking you can then merge out the weight classes. Fighters can be listed in more than one weight class that way (for instance Jake Shields).

  86. jason July 2, 2012 at 9:33 am Reply

    He’s at #11. We made a change to the logic regarding divisional depth and also assessed a small penalty if a fighter only has one recent fight in his current division.

  87. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    He’s at #11. We made a change to the logic regarding divisional depth and also assessed a small penalty if a fighter only has one recent fight in his current division.

  88. ThonolansGhost July 1, 2012 at 8:09 pm Reply

    Quite a change… Last week Benavidez was #1, now he’s unranked. Surely he belongs in the top ten.

  89. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    Quite a change… Last week Benavidez was #1, now he’s unranked. Surely he belongs in the top ten.

  90. John N. June 27, 2012 at 6:44 pm Reply

    Benavidez SHAFT!
    dufuq bruh?
    Better be back up after this mighty mouse fight.

  91. ltokuda June 25, 2012 at 10:59 am Reply

    Hi JCS,

    I’ve been researching this issue over the weekend and found some interesting results. I registered with fightmatrix.com so that I can start a thread on the discussion board but my account hasn’t been activated yet. Can you get it activated?

    Thanks,
    Lee

  92. ltokuda June 22, 2012 at 5:40 pm Reply

    I understand that. But I think you can have the best of both worlds. I think you can create a ranking system that is objective and that doesn’t penalize fighters in deep weight classes. It seems like you already have most of the pieces. You just have to find something to compare an elite fighter against besides the “top contenders”. The “median” might be the answer. Or maybe there’s a better alternative. It might take some experimenting but I think its a worthwhile effort.

    I’m a big fan of this site so it pains me to see so many MMA fans trash it over the Division Dominance confusion. The divisional rankings are great but they seem to lose credibility with MMA fans because the Division Dominance algorithm produces such non-intuitive results. I can understand how a first time reader can get confused by the Division Dominance list and decide that rest of the site is not worth reading. After years of hearing the same complaints, I think its a definite sign that something has to change.

  93. jason June 22, 2012 at 4:23 pm Reply

    I want to give people an answer that I can certify as being more objective than subjective. The system has limitations and I’m afraid this is one of them.

  94. ltokuda June 22, 2012 at 3:35 pm Reply

    “That’s the whole point =). It’s intended to work like it’s working, the sole issue being with the Flyweights and the fact Benavidez racked up so many points before moving over.”

    I understand that your system isn’t really flawed. It works the way it was designed to work. But that’s why I think you have to take a step back from this and look at the big picture.

    You have to ask yourself “what does the public want to know?”. Ultimately, fans are interested in P4P lists because they want to know who you think the best fighter is, if you disregard weight.

    The Division Dominance rankings doesn’t answer that question. Instead, it answers a question that no one is asking.

    That really is the main issue. That’s why I think you need to take a step back and think about why you started this website. Do you really want to spend your time giving people an answer to a question that they never asked, and that they’ll never care about? Do you want to continue to confuse new reader and possibly turn them away?

    Thanks,
    Lee

  95. jason June 22, 2012 at 2:50 pm Reply

    “it measures a fighter against the top contenders in the division. The strength of the top contenders is largely based on how many fighters are competing at that weight. In general, the more competition you have, the stronger the division becomes.”.

    That’s the whole point =). It’s intended to work like it’s working, the sole issue being with the Flyweights and the fact Benavidez racked up so many points before moving over.

  96. ltokuda June 22, 2012 at 2:45 pm Reply

    Hi JCS,

    I think the main weakness of the Division Point Dominance rankings is that it measures a fighter against the top contenders in the division. The strength of the top contenders is largely based on how many fighters are competing at that weight. In general, the more competition you have, the stronger the division becomes. So the top 10 of a division with 10000 fighters will probably be better than the top 10 of a division with 5000 fighters. This systems penalizes fighters competing in the deeper divisions.

    I think it would be more intuitive to compare a fighter against something that doesn’t change with the population of the division. I don’t know the details of your ranking system but I would guess that using a “median” might work. I’m guessing that the “median” fighter would represent the “typical” fighter in that division. If the division grows in size, you would expect to see both an increase in the level of the top 10 and a decrease in the level of the bottom 10. But I suspect the “median” fighter wouldn’t change very much. So your P4P rankings could compare the elite fighters against a “median” to measure how far he surpasses the typical fighter.

    The median could be calculated by just ranking all the fighters in order and choosing the middle one. Or you could rank the division in order and split the them into 5 groups (quintiles). The first group contains the top 20%. The last group contains the bottom 20%. The middle group contains the middle 20%. If you take the average point value of the middle group, that should give you something close to median (but maybe with less volitility).

    Thanks,
    Lee

  97. ltokuda August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    “That’s the whole point =). It’s intended to work like it’s working, the sole issue being with the Flyweights and the fact Benavidez racked up so many points before moving over.”

    I understand that your system isn’t really flawed. It works the way it was designed to work. But that’s why I think you have to take a step back from this and look at the big picture.

    You have to ask yourself “what does the public want to know?”. Ultimately, fans are interested in P4P lists because they want to know who you think the best fighter is, if you disregard weight.

    The Division Dominance rankings doesn’t answer that question. Instead, it answers a question that no one is asking.

    That really is the main issue. That’s why I think you need to take a step back and think about why you started this website. Do you really want to spend your time giving people an answer to a question that they never asked, and that they’ll never care about? Do you want to continue to confuse new reader and possibly turn them away?

    Thanks,
    Lee

  98. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    “it measures a fighter against the top contenders in the division. The strength of the top contenders is largely based on how many fighters are competing at that weight. In general, the more competition you have, the stronger the division becomes.”.

    That’s the whole point =). It’s intended to work like it’s working, the sole issue being with the Flyweights and the fact Benavidez racked up so many points before moving over.

  99. jason June 22, 2012 at 9:06 am Reply

    P4P = Subjective. We are not that. How do you equate P4P to a formula?

  100. ltokuda June 21, 2012 at 8:12 pm Reply

    Hi JCS,

    Have you considered creating a real “Pound for Pound” ranking system? I notice that no matter how well the system is explained above, you are constantly having to remind people that “this isn’t a P4P list”. I think you should consider that a sign. The “Division Point Dominance” rankings are interesting, but are out of sync with what most people are looking for in a ranking system.

    At the end of the day, people are looking for a P4P list. P4P lists probably go back a hundred years in boxing. Its part of fighting history. So when you create a list that ranks fighters of different weight classes against each other, anything other than a P4P list is bound to be confusing.

    People really want to know if fighter X at lightweight is better than fighter Y at heavyweight. They want a ranking system that rewards fighters that compete against tough competition rather than punishes them. People don’t want to look at a list and have to wonder if it means a fighter is really good or his division is really bad.

    I think your ranking system for individual divisions is great. They do a good job of producing fair and intuitively reasonable results. If you can introduce a P4P ranking system along those same lines, it would be a huge improvement.

    Thanks,
    Lee

  101. StealingFire June 6, 2012 at 5:52 am Reply

    It’s not Joseph at #1 but Aldo at #6 that seems ridiculous.

  102. StealingFire August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    It’s not Joseph at #1 but Aldo at #6 that seems ridiculous.

  103. jason May 2, 2012 at 9:20 pm Reply

    This isn’t a P4P list.

    Joseph Benavidez is #1, because his point total exceeds the average Flyweight contender by a larger proportion than any other fighter’s exceeds the average contender within their respective divisions. The guy was a strong #2 in a heavier division, then moved down to a weak division. In addition, he beat a strong Flyweight in his first fight there, validating this claim.

  104. Bob May 2, 2012 at 8:18 pm Reply

    Sorry but this is the only P4P list that has him at #1. Every other updated list has Silva or Jones there. With Aldo and GSP trading the 3 and 4 spots.

  105. jason April 22, 2012 at 7:24 pm Reply

    It’s all point-based, bud. Benavidez has a biggest advantage over fellow Flyweights than Cruz does over the Bantams.

    When more quality fighters move down to Fly, his DD rating will drop down.

  106. Mikael April 22, 2012 at 6:23 pm Reply

    Joe B-wan is ranked NO.1? and Cruz who beat him twice is ranked No.7??
    WOW…
    The list should be 1. Silva, 2. Jones, 3. GSP 4. Cruz, 5. Aldo, 6. Dos Santos, 7. Henderson, 8. McCall, 9. Edgar, 10. Melendez

  107. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    It’s all point-based, bud. Benavidez has a biggest advantage over fellow Flyweights than Cruz does over the Bantams.

    When more quality fighters move down to Fly, his DD rating will drop down.

  108. Mikael August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    Joe B-wan is ranked NO.1? and Cruz who beat him twice is ranked No.7??
    WOW…
    The list should be 1. Silva, 2. Jones, 3. GSP 4. Cruz, 5. Aldo, 6. Dos Santos, 7. Henderson, 8. McCall, 9. Edgar, 10. Melendez

  109. Why is JDS not P4P on Sherdog? – Page 5 – Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums March 15, 2012 at 4:03 pm Reply

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  111. ThonolansGhost March 6, 2012 at 7:52 am Reply

    I’m guessing that if Benavidez wins his next fight (against Johnson or McCall), his total points will go through the roof. But it’s true that as the division fills out a bit, his point total could drop somewhat. Still, I’d expect him to stay at #1 on the division dominance list until he loses.

  112. bart March 6, 2012 at 5:28 am Reply

    Maybe the upcoming flyweight fights (Mighty Mouse vs McCall II, Dodson-Uyenoyama and Lineker-Gaudinot) will lower the DD ranking of Benavidez somewhat.

  113. ThonolansGhost March 4, 2012 at 12:18 pm Reply

    Looks like we have a new #1. Not exactly unexpected, but still interesting. And he could be there for quite some time.

  114. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    Looks like we have a new #1. Not exactly unexpected, but still interesting. And he could be there for quite some time.

  115. jason February 27, 2012 at 10:08 am Reply

    They’re gonna be wacky. What’s about to happen is quite unusual. 🙂

  116. ThonolansGhost February 27, 2012 at 9:37 am Reply

    I can’t wait to see how the upcoming UFC Flyweight tournament effcts these rankings.

  117. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    They’re gonna be wacky. What’s about to happen is quite unusual. 🙂

  118. Howie November 21, 2011 at 3:41 pm Reply

    I’ve said this before, but the most interesting part of this list is always the last 3 slots. All 3 turned over this week. Previously, I suggested a top 20 list. Even better, can’t we have two separate lists?… one for champions and one for contenders.

  119. Howie August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    I’ve said this before, but the most interesting part of this list is always the last 3 slots. All 3 turned over this week. Previously, I suggested a top 20 list. Even better, can’t we have two separate lists?… one for champions and one for contenders.

  120. oleg November 16, 2011 at 6:01 pm Reply

    GSP is not as high on this list as he once was, because the top of the welterweight division is very strong.

  121. jason November 16, 2011 at 3:42 pm Reply

    That key is a ROUGH description.. it by no means is set in stone. I 100% expect all hell to break loose with this list when the UFC adds Flyweights.

  122. Matt November 16, 2011 at 3:33 pm Reply

    Great site, I check it all the time. Just noticed this though:

    “>200 – A fighter who has cleaned out the division. A true superstar. One of the era’s best.”

    And GSP has 165 points. IMO GSP has cleaned out his division, is a true superstar, and definitly one of the era’s best. Just thought I’d bring it up to get you’re reasoning on that.

    Minor dispute aside, keep up the great work!

  123. oleg August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    GSP is not as high on this list as he once was, because the top of the welterweight division is very strong.

  124. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    That key is a ROUGH description.. it by no means is set in stone. I 100% expect all hell to break loose with this list when the UFC adds Flyweights.

  125. ThonolansGhost October 1, 2011 at 12:06 pm Reply

    Hard to believe that Aldo is seventh on this list. I suppose he’ll move up a bit after he beats Florian and even moreso assuming he can beat Mendes early next year.

  126. Brent September 17, 2011 at 11:01 pm Reply

    Rashad Evans over Rua at LHW for starters.

    I think this would be much more easy to discuss if this list was granted a 50-100 spot ratio and could at least a better scope within to work some more complex comparisons.

    I will end off by backing up meathead from s10 tuf in saying, “You are like a Dominic Cruz at HW so far, keep up the good work.”
    PS Matt the term you slip to Chieck is “bon nuit”

  127. Brent August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Rashad Evans over Rua at LHW for starters.

    I think this would be much more easy to discuss if this list was granted a 50-100 spot ratio and could at least a better scope within to work some more complex comparisons.

    I will end off by backing up meathead from s10 tuf in saying, “You are like a Dominic Cruz at HW so far, keep up the good work.”
    PS Matt the term you slip to Chieck is “bon nuit”

  128. John N. September 16, 2011 at 11:31 am Reply

    I like the new qualifiers. They seem to be working so far

  129. John N. August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    I like the new qualifiers. They seem to be working so far

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  131. Shut the Fitch up June 23, 2011 at 11:57 pm Reply

    Really? Kenny?…..

    Kenny and Brock do not belong there while JrDos and Fitch have their current records.

    Benavidez is a tough call…..I have alot of respect for him, but I’d still put Shields above him.

  132. John June 16, 2011 at 2:37 am Reply

    The fact that Kenny Florian makes the top 10 of this list suggests that divisional dominance is perhaps a more misleading ranking method than pound-for-pound. There’s a plethora of welterweights, light heavyweights, and Gray Maynard who clearly belong ahead of Kenny Florian p4p.

  133. jason June 13, 2011 at 1:09 pm Reply

    It SEEMS premature, but this list is concerned with point dominance within the division. Kenny Florian is the 2nd highest rated fighter in the Featherweight division w/ a very comfortable lead over the rest of the pack, outside of Aldo, of course.

  134. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    It SEEMS premature, but this list is concerned with point dominance within the division. Kenny Florian is the 2nd highest rated fighter in the Featherweight division w/ a very comfortable lead over the rest of the pack, outside of Aldo, of course.

  135. John N. June 12, 2011 at 5:01 pm Reply

    Florian? Really guys? I’ll give you the FW ranking (with your division change rules) but one win, in any division, especially in a non-title fight, does not mean you’ve dominated the division.

  136. John N. August 19, 2018 at 7:38 pm Reply

    Florian? Really guys? I’ll give you the FW ranking (with your division change rules) but one win, in any division, especially in a non-title fight, does not mean you’ve dominated the division.

  137. Potential Super-Fight: “GSP vs. Silva” — Everything We Know Right Now February 8, 2011 at 4:10 pm Reply

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  138. jason January 3, 2011 at 9:45 am Reply

    Expanding this much further takes the scope of the list outside of the boundaries of what it was developed to show.. division dominance. How dominant are fighters ranked #3 and #4?

    OH Right. Please read the info at the top of the pages. They are able to answer most of the questions you’ve asked.

  139. overhand right January 2, 2011 at 6:13 pm Reply

    i agree with howie about making this a top 20, i’m interested to see who’s on the brink of the top 10. also is it pretty much statistically impossible to make a mathematically correct pound for pound list, or is this just more accurate?

    and how do you decide to put someone like silva, who’s fought less quality opponents than gsp at number 1? is it because he’s undefeated?

  140. overhand right August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    i agree with howie about making this a top 20, i’m interested to see who’s on the brink of the top 10. also is it pretty much statistically impossible to make a mathematically correct pound for pound list, or is this just more accurate?

    and how do you decide to put someone like silva, who’s fought less quality opponents than gsp at number 1? is it because he’s undefeated?

  141. michal January 1, 2011 at 11:05 am Reply

    Super page:)

  142. michal August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Super page:)

  143. Howie December 20, 2010 at 2:48 pm Reply

    Can you please make this a top-20 list? The most interesting part is spots 8-10. Almost all of the top 7 spots frequently just go to UFC champions.

  144. John November 23, 2010 at 2:55 am Reply

    Mateo, Shields is back at 170. He has an impressive resume at 170 already.

  145. John August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Mateo, Shields is back at 170. He has an impressive resume at 170 already.

  146. jason November 21, 2010 at 1:02 pm Reply

    Read the description above the list and you will understand. BJ moved from 155 to 170, thus making the 155 division weaker and the 170 division stronger. This is not a pound-for-pound list.

  147. bart November 21, 2010 at 12:59 pm Reply

    Hm… so BJ Penn moves from lightweight to welterweight. Both Edgar (n°1 lightweight) and GSP (n°1 ww) have beaten him before. Then how come Edgar actually gains a position and GSP falls one in the division dominance list??

  148. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Read the description above the list and you will understand. BJ moved from 155 to 170, thus making the 155 division weaker and the 170 division stronger. This is not a pound-for-pound list.

  149. bart August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Hm… so BJ Penn moves from lightweight to welterweight. Both Edgar (n°1 lightweight) and GSP (n°1 ww) have beaten him before. Then how come Edgar actually gains a position and GSP falls one in the division dominance list??

  150. jason October 30, 2010 at 6:12 pm Reply

    Read the info at the top of the page.

  151. Mateo October 30, 2010 at 3:18 pm Reply

    Why is Jake Shields on the division dominance list at 170? He just moved to this division.

  152. jason August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Read the info at the top of the page.

  153. ThonolansGhost October 29, 2010 at 1:31 pm Reply

    And rightfully so. The UFC has two or three times as many high quality fighters as all the other organizations combined. The few great fighters not currently with the UFC are hampered by a lack of quality opposition.

  154. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    And rightfully so. The UFC has two or three times as many high quality fighters as all the other organizations combined. The few great fighters not currently with the UFC are hampered by a lack of quality opposition.

  155. bart October 28, 2010 at 2:00 pm Reply

    Hm… I just realized that with the merger UFC-WEC, the UFC will have the entire top 10 of the division dominance list…

  156. bart August 19, 2018 at 9:07 pm Reply

    Hm… I just realized that with the merger UFC-WEC, the UFC will have the entire top 10 of the division dominance list…

  157. ThonolansGhost October 5, 2010 at 12:57 pm Reply

    I’m guessing that a win over Rampage would move Machida up a couple of spots on the division dominance list.

  158. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I’m guessing that a win over Rampage would move Machida up a couple of spots on the division dominance list.

  159. jason October 3, 2010 at 1:48 pm Reply

    Should Luciano Azeredo be ranked ahead of Jose Aldo?

  160. John October 3, 2010 at 11:28 am Reply

    Machida should be over evans. Obviously

  161. ThonolansGhost October 1, 2010 at 3:13 pm Reply

    It’s nice to see Aldo getting the credit he deserves.

  162. ThonolansGhost October 1, 2010 at 3:12 pm Reply

    IF Velasqquez somehow manages to beat Lesnar, then he deserves to be on the division dominance list, but not until then.

  163. Bubba September 20, 2010 at 6:38 am Reply

    My Boy Cain Velasquez Deserve To Be on This!!

  164. Mike T August 29, 2010 at 1:50 pm Reply

    Frankie Edgar vs Jose Aldo would be an interesting fight

  165. Mike T August 19, 2018 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Frankie Edgar vs Jose Aldo would be an interesting fight

  166. Ben August 29, 2010 at 1:02 am Reply

    I wouldn’t put Aldo that low or Shogun that high

  167. jason August 13, 2010 at 6:56 am Reply

    Although Fedor had a lofty ranking, he hadn’t really beaten anyone of late to keep his spot after a 1st round submission loss to a fringe top 10 fighter.

  168. ThonolansGhost August 12, 2010 at 4:00 pm Reply

    skwirrl, your post is a friggin joke. Fedor just got subbed by a fringe top ten fighter, while Brock has consecutive stoppages over Couture, Mir and Carwin in his last three fights.

  169. skwirrl August 12, 2010 at 3:15 pm Reply

    what a friggin joke. Fedor has 1 legit loss and has smashed 5 UFC champions and he’s not in the top 10. Brock hasn’t beaten anybody worth a hot, steaming crap.

  170. gsp is the p4p best now – Page 13 – Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums July 26, 2010 at 10:34 am Reply

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  171. Matt July 18, 2010 at 6:16 am Reply

    I ahve a problem with lesnar ebing #3, but just because I still believe that Fedor shoudl be there. But he has earned that spot. I also don’t believ that Rua, Werdum, Cruz, or Edgar should ebt hat high. But then again who should be ahead of them. I guess what im trying to say is that I just don’t see them being dominant, and being top 10 in this list is just weird to me. But then that’s why you got to love MMA. I also think Jose Aldo should be higher. Considering he is gonna wear that belt for a long time (Faber fan, don’t liek Aldo). Featherweight sure does need to get more depth. Faber dominated that weight class, then now Aldo is going to.

  172. ThonolansGhost July 4, 2010 at 11:33 pm Reply

    I’m still waiting for the inevitable complaints concerning Lesnar moving up to #3 on this list. Personally, I have no prolems with it.

  173. Werdum June 27, 2010 at 8:16 am Reply
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  175. Pat June 19, 2010 at 2:18 am Reply

    I guess some people do not know what the word “division” or “dominance” means. Either that, or they just hate Brock Lesnar.

  176. jason May 16, 2010 at 10:33 am Reply

    Brock Lesnar is a Heavyweight and is compared to others in his division. Its comparable to a P4P list but not identical.

  177. Sean Carin May 16, 2010 at 10:32 am Reply

    how is the “comparable to the p4p list” when Brock lesnar is in it? Take away the huge weigh advantage and Brock is left with nothing. He has no standup and a mediocre ground game. All he does is lay on his opponents and pound them out. once again how is this comparable to the p4p list which is a ranking that negates weight advantages, and ranks by skill levels.

  178. Sean Carin August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    how is the “comparable to the p4p list” when Brock lesnar is in it? Take away the huge weigh advantage and Brock is left with nothing. He has no standup and a mediocre ground game. All he does is lay on his opponents and pound them out. once again how is this comparable to the p4p list which is a ranking that negates weight advantages, and ranks by skill levels.

  179. Howie May 14, 2010 at 12:19 pm Reply

    Can you post top 20 instead of just top 10? Eight spots get eaten up by the UFC/WEC champions and Fedor.

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  183. Mike T April 4, 2010 at 11:10 am Reply

    Lesnar will be the next Sokoujou…a flash in the pan

  184. Mike T August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Lesnar will be the next Sokoujou…a flash in the pan

  185. mmamofo21 March 13, 2010 at 9:22 am Reply

    y is brock lesnar on the list

  186. mmamofo21 August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    y is brock lesnar on the list

  187. Chu March 12, 2010 at 1:37 pm Reply

    I want to see Fedor fight a top notch Heavyweight.

  188. oc wrestler February 23, 2010 at 9:49 am Reply

    also i think fedor should be the #1

  189. oc wrestler February 23, 2010 at 9:49 am Reply

    i believe that jose aldo should be ahead of brock lesnar

  190. pikeamus February 8, 2010 at 2:02 pm Reply

    If Anderson and GSP both win their next matches will the gap shrink or extend? Vitor has more points (though I understand his MW points will be a little different than his LHW score) in total than Hardy but Vitor returning to MW will increase the strength of the MW division as well.

    I’d expect the gap to close, but I haven’t seen the formula used here.

  191. jason December 13, 2009 at 1:42 pm Reply

    We don’t keep track of what bouts are open-weight. There’d probably be a Pancrase list and an everyone else list, because Pancrase is to blame for a ton of open-weight bouts.

  192. Jordan P. December 2, 2009 at 7:28 pm Reply

    hey jcs! i know your having trouble with the all time heavyweight division. perhaps you should divide it into heavyweight and open weight divisions so that you have to distinct criteria thus eliminating your “early 90’s no weight limit” problem.

    plus you know who is gonna be top ten in heavyweight: fedor, nog, cro cop, barnett, arlovski, randy couture, mark coleman, mir and either brock, tim sylvia, bas rutten or alistair overeem (probably brock).

    and who is gonna be top ten open weight: minowaman, sakuraba, royce gracie, ken shamrock, bob sapp, giant silva, butterbean, tank abbott, hong man choi, zuluzinho tie with kimo leopoldo. (jk about most of those except the first 4, though i wouldn’t be suprised if at least one of the other 7 i mentioned made that list, if not more).

  193. Jordan P. November 8, 2009 at 7:42 pm Reply

    I’m personally more interested in a match between fedor and anderson silva, since anderson walks around at 215 lbs and there is no way in hell GSP can beat him.

  194. Kostogryz October 28, 2009 at 3:29 pm Reply

    Fedor the best! No doubts!

  195. Kostogryz August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Fedor the best! No doubts!

  196. Latest MMA Rankings – Top 150’s – Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums October 19, 2009 at 12:46 pm Reply

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  197. oleg September 12, 2009 at 10:11 pm Reply

    I personally don’t have much interest in seeing St. Pierre fight Anderson Silva.

  198. oleg August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I personally don’t have much interest in seeing St. Pierre fight Anderson Silva.

  199. adam September 12, 2009 at 6:04 pm Reply

    st piere is scared to fight silva ,”he needs time to get some weight on” ,well silva is ready to fight anyone in the world ,roy jones after he ends his contract ,frank mir who ever dana puts in there with him ,,,,,,,,,,,,,dana let him fight,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  200. adam August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    st piere is scared to fight silva ,”he needs time to get some weight on” ,well silva is ready to fight anyone in the world ,roy jones after he ends his contract ,frank mir who ever dana puts in there with him ,,,,,,,,,,,,,dana let him fight,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  201. WhatSON!!! September 2, 2009 at 7:34 pm Reply

    Kimbo Slice is the most dominate in all of MMA

  202. WhatSON!!! August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Kimbo Slice is the most dominate in all of MMA

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  206. Jess August 19, 2009 at 11:01 pm Reply

    Way to dodge the point I made before that.

  207. Jess August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Way to dodge the point I made before that.

  208. jason August 19, 2009 at 7:35 am Reply

    Maybe you shouldn’t. Its obvious you lack understanding. He had only beaten every top Flyweight up until the point of his last loss.

  209. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Maybe you shouldn’t. Its obvious you lack understanding. He had only beaten every top Flyweight up until the point of his last loss.

  210. Jess August 18, 2009 at 9:33 pm Reply

    Then again, maybe I shouldn’t even bother with the rankings of a site that once had Shinichi Kojima in the top 10 of this list despite having failed to win 2 consecutive fights in 3 years.

  211. Jess August 18, 2009 at 9:32 pm Reply

    “Plus Bantamweight overall, is a weak division.”
    “Probably not, because Bowles’ next opponent is likely going to be of much higher quality than Silva or Fedor’s.”

    That’s a contradiction.

    Betting odds are based on the likelihood of a fight going one way or the other. If Bowles was more dominant in his division than Silva in his, he’d be a bigger favorite.

  212. jason August 18, 2009 at 6:15 pm Reply

    Betting means nothing. What were the odds on Torres/Bowles?

    I didn’t contradict myself at all. You asked a simple question without qualifiers. When I posted, Fedor was rumored to face Ricco, and I hadn’t heard about Bowles’ plans. Maybe I prematurely assumed a Bowles/Torres rematch would be next.

    Either way we’ll see.

  213. Jess August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Then again, maybe I shouldn’t even bother with the rankings of a site that once had Shinichi Kojima in the top 10 of this list despite having failed to win 2 consecutive fights in 3 years.

  214. Jess August 18, 2009 at 5:31 pm Reply

    By the way, you contradicted yourself. If Bowles is more dominant in his division than Fedor or Silva, than that means he’s less likely to lose his next fight in his division. In addition, Bowles hasn’t even defended his title once. That’s not exactly dominant. If he can tear through his next two title defenses like Silva, GSP, or Fedor (via Wamma/Pride) then I can see the argument.

  215. Jess August 18, 2009 at 5:25 pm Reply

    I disagree. Cruz < Hendo division-wise. Yet Bowles will be a smaller betting favorite over Cruz then Silva to Hendo. There are no other top 10 p4p HW’s for Fedor to beat, but he’s beat all the other top dogs available easily. Silva has cleaned out his division except for Maia, and frankly when he beat both Hendo and Griffin, both were on p4p lists, Hendo was considered #4 prior to his loss to Rampage.

  216. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Betting means nothing. What were the odds on Torres/Bowles?

    I didn’t contradict myself at all. You asked a simple question without qualifiers. When I posted, Fedor was rumored to face Ricco, and I hadn’t heard about Bowles’ plans. Maybe I prematurely assumed a Bowles/Torres rematch would be next.

    Either way we’ll see.

  217. Jess August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    By the way, you contradicted yourself. If Bowles is more dominant in his division than Fedor or Silva, than that means he’s less likely to lose his next fight in his division. In addition, Bowles hasn’t even defended his title once. That’s not exactly dominant. If he can tear through his next two title defenses like Silva, GSP, or Fedor (via Wamma/Pride) then I can see the argument.

  218. Jess August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    I disagree. Cruz < Hendo division-wise. Yet Bowles will be a smaller betting favorite over Cruz then Silva to Hendo. There are no other top 10 p4p HW’s for Fedor to beat, but he’s beat all the other top dogs available easily. Silva has cleaned out his division except for Maia, and frankly when he beat both Hendo and Griffin, both were on p4p lists, Hendo was considered #4 prior to his loss to Rampage.

  219. jason August 17, 2009 at 1:04 pm Reply

    Probably not, because Bowles’ next opponent is likely going to be of much higher quality than Silva or Fedor’s.

    Bowles just proved he can easily defeat a Top P4P fighter. Has Silva or Fedor done that recently? Have either of beat a Top 5 P4P in the past few years?

  220. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Probably not, because Bowles’ next opponent is likely going to be of much higher quality than Silva or Fedor’s.

    Bowles just proved he can easily defeat a Top P4P fighter. Has Silva or Fedor done that recently? Have either of beat a Top 5 P4P in the past few years?

  221. Jess August 16, 2009 at 3:28 am Reply

    Fair’s fair. So you’re telling me that you believe Anderson Silva and Fedor are more likely to lose in their next fights than Brian Bowles?

  222. Jess August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Fair’s fair. So you’re telling me that you believe Anderson Silva and Fedor are more likely to lose in their next fights than Brian Bowles?

  223. oleg August 12, 2009 at 9:47 pm Reply

    I think the rise of Bowles is more credit to the weakness of the division than anything else.

  224. jason August 12, 2009 at 7:36 pm Reply

    Thanks for your wonderful comments Jess. Its not a P4P list. Bowles is #2 because he is undefeated, and just KOd the best Bantamweight in history, while still in his prime. He has also beaten other solid contenders. Has Bowles even lost a round in his entire career? Not even Machida can say that.

    Plus Bantamweight overall, is a weak division. Read the description before you comment.

  225. oleg August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I think the rise of Bowles is more credit to the weakness of the division than anything else.

  226. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    Thanks for your wonderful comments Jess. Its not a P4P list. Bowles is #2 because he is undefeated, and just KOd the best Bantamweight in history, while still in his prime. He has also beaten other solid contenders. Has Bowles even lost a round in his entire career? Not even Machida can say that.

    Plus Bantamweight overall, is a weak division. Read the description before you comment.

  227. Jess August 11, 2009 at 4:11 pm Reply

    What terrible rankings. What kind of math system puts Brian Bowles at number 2 on the rankings and Anderson Silva at number 4. What a pathetic list.

  228. Jess August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    What terrible rankings. What kind of math system puts Brian Bowles at number 2 on the rankings and Anderson Silva at number 4. What a pathetic list.

  229. Condrab July 18, 2009 at 11:11 am Reply

       Shinichi “BJ” Kojima is 5-2-3 in his last 10 fights 2-0-1 to the same guy in that stretch. How is that dominant? Ken flo is 9-1, against tough competition.

  230. Condrab August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

       Shinichi “BJ” Kojima is 5-2-3 in his last 10 fights 2-0-1 to the same guy in that stretch. How is that dominant? Ken flo is 9-1, against tough competition.

  231. ThonolansGhost July 12, 2009 at 6:46 pm Reply

    I wondering whether a win over Mir would be enough to propel Lesnar into the top ten on the division dominance list…And there he is, at #8.

  232. ThonolansGhost August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    I wondering whether a win over Mir would be enough to propel Lesnar into the top ten on the division dominance list…And there he is, at #8.

  233. Jacques Straupe June 8, 2009 at 7:20 pm Reply

    Tyler, I’m glad you posted. Before that post I wasn’t sure if I should laugh or bang my head against a wall. The funniest post though came when Jordan made his list and didn’t include any Middle weights and Heavy Weights other than Fedor and Silva. While including 3 Welter Weights. Made me really realize he had no idea what these rankings were all about.

  234. Jacques Straupe August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Tyler, I’m glad you posted. Before that post I wasn’t sure if I should laugh or bang my head against a wall. The funniest post though came when Jordan made his list and didn’t include any Middle weights and Heavy Weights other than Fedor and Silva. While including 3 Welter Weights. Made me really realize he had no idea what these rankings were all about.

  235. Lyoto Machida June 8, 2009 at 2:55 pm Reply

    I should be #1! I have yet to lose a fight, and I have won every fight decisively against some of the greatest fighters in the world!

  236. Lyoto Machida August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I should be #1! I have yet to lose a fight, and I have won every fight decisively against some of the greatest fighters in the world!

  237. Chelle June 6, 2009 at 5:51 pm Reply

    its nice to see Silva below Torres & Fedor

  238. Chelle August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    its nice to see Silva below Torres & Fedor

  239. Tyler May 29, 2009 at 1:44 am Reply

    Jordan, why should Oleg and JCS change their system to reflect what OTHER people want? If other people don’t like their site, they can make their own, or just go elsewhere. Personally I am a huge fan of what they’ve done with this site, and although there are things I might do differently, I wouldn’t be presumptuous enough to tell them what they SHOULD or shouldn’t do with their own website.

  240. Yo Mama May 28, 2009 at 3:36 pm Reply

    LOL yeah I have to agree with Tyler. Stop already with the personal bias and fan boy BS. Fedor hasn’t had a real challenge in some time…Anderson Silva is the same. Yeah they are kicking the crap out of their division but their divisions are not that strong at the moment. It doesnt matter what your record is…its who you fought to get that record. Atleast Brock Lesnar is not on this list….I didnt feel like puking today.

  241. Jordan Penwell May 28, 2009 at 2:49 pm Reply

    Perhaps then Tyler they should change the system to more accurately reflect what the people want. you can chuckle all you like but if something is ridiculous it only makes you look like a bufoon. As for the rankings in a P4P context as it should be Silva is #1, then GSP, then Fedor, then Machida, then Torres, then Jackson, then Brown, then Faber, then Fitch, Then Alves

  242. Yo Mama August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    LOL yeah I have to agree with Tyler. Stop already with the personal bias and fan boy BS. Fedor hasn’t had a real challenge in some time…Anderson Silva is the same. Yeah they are kicking the crap out of their division but their divisions are not that strong at the moment. It doesnt matter what your record is…its who you fought to get that record. Atleast Brock Lesnar is not on this list….I didnt feel like puking today.

  243. Jordan Penwell August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    Perhaps then Tyler they should change the system to more accurately reflect what the people want. you can chuckle all you like but if something is ridiculous it only makes you look like a bufoon. As for the rankings in a P4P context as it should be Silva is #1, then GSP, then Fedor, then Machida, then Torres, then Jackson, then Brown, then Faber, then Fitch, Then Alves

  244. Tyler May 26, 2009 at 4:51 pm Reply

    I’m literally chuckling out loud at all the comments on this page by people with poor reading comprehension. It’s a mathematical system; your arguments will not influence the lstings in any way. And as stated at the top, it’s not a “pound for pound” list. The list is determined by the quality of competition in the division in addition to the fighter itself. So people that don’t understand why Fedor is below GSP should really go reread those defintions and look at the divisions those two fight in.

  245. Tyler August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    I’m literally chuckling out loud at all the comments on this page by people with poor reading comprehension. It’s a mathematical system; your arguments will not influence the lstings in any way. And as stated at the top, it’s not a “pound for pound” list. The list is determined by the quality of competition in the division in addition to the fighter itself. So people that don’t understand why Fedor is below GSP should really go reread those defintions and look at the divisions those two fight in.

  246. James Sanders May 23, 2009 at 6:55 pm Reply

    gsp over The Fedor is hog wash he is not better than anderson silva or rashard evans that shit needs to be fixed

  247. James Sanders August 19, 2018 at 9:01 pm Reply

    gsp over The Fedor is hog wash he is not better than anderson silva or rashard evans that shit needs to be fixed

  248. Fedor May 17, 2009 at 11:51 am Reply

    GSP should be number 1 simply because he’s completely dominating his division and has avenged his only 2 losses with dominant victories. Fedor has only fought about 2 times in the last 2 years, he’s not dominating his division at all.

  249. Fedor August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    GSP should be number 1 simply because he’s completely dominating his division and has avenged his only 2 losses with dominant victories. Fedor has only fought about 2 times in the last 2 years, he’s not dominating his division at all.

  250. Ace May 7, 2009 at 9:08 pm Reply

    Definately have to agree with Loco-Plata. Anderson Silva has dominated his division more then anyone on here. Several title defences and it is not his fault these other guys aren’t giving him the fight he needs. He is dominating his division so much that Dana White had to go a division higher to find him an opponent to give him a challenge or at least make an interesting fight.

  251. LOCO-PLATA April 30, 2009 at 3:08 pm Reply

    Mike Brown shouldn’t be on this list at least not yet he’s only defended his title once at least wait till the rematch with Faber before listing him. Same thing goes with GSP I personally dont think he should be #1. If any body has shown division dominance it’s Anderson Silva he has defended his title more times than anyone else at 185. He definatly should be number 1.

  252. Matt April 30, 2009 at 11:35 am Reply

    Can anyone seriously argue that the heavyweight division as a whole as anywhere near the depth of the Welterweight division? With the exception of a handful of fighters the Heavyweight division is bereft of meaningful talent. That is why GSP rightfully tops this list. He dominates arguably the deepest division in the world.

  253. Jordan Penwell April 28, 2009 at 6:58 pm Reply

    sorry but its fedor then silva then gsp. no question just stylistically and however else you can come up with. rampage should be ranked higher. definitely higher. but where is urijah faber? he just drops off the map after years of dominance?

  254. Mark April 20, 2009 at 6:51 pm Reply

    I agree with Jack 100%. Good post.

  255. Jack Bauer April 7, 2009 at 9:52 pm Reply

    Division Dominance is a great idea.

    Everyone talks about P4P but it’s impossible to gauge fighters who stay in one division. This ranking system is very unbiased, and in my mind very accurate as well.

    It’s not saying GSP is better than Fedor, simply that he fights the best competition in his weight class.

    If I have one problem with the rankings it’s that fighters with one big win major points (ala Matt Serra) but it doesn’t reflect their overall record. Aside from that it’s my favourite unbiased ranking system. It is suprisingly accurate.

  256. jason April 6, 2009 at 12:42 pm Reply

    Strengthening of the division. Torres didn’t gain a ton of points, while Mizugaki essentially stayed the same, Benavidez moved up, Tamura moved in. Had Torres stopped Mizugaki, he would not have dropped.

  257. Richard Wade April 6, 2009 at 12:14 pm Reply

    What caused Torres to drop?

  258. Richard Wade August 19, 2018 at 7:57 pm Reply

    What caused Torres to drop?

  259. oleg March 27, 2009 at 11:53 pm Reply

    This list is only based on the fighters dominance over their respective division, not the ability to transcend weight classes.

  260. oleg August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    This list is only based on the fighters dominance over their respective division, not the ability to transcend weight classes.

  261. ISAIAH March 27, 2009 at 2:41 pm Reply

    This doesnt make sence if this list is based off the ability to move to different weight classes and still remain successful Fedor, GSP, and Jackson shouldnt be on the list i dnt think they’ve ever fought outside their wight classes. Rashad Evans and Anderson Silva should be higher on the list, because they’ve fought in 2 weight classes and still remained successful in those 2 weght classes I also think they should add Randy Couture,and BJ Penn because they’re the only 2 fighters in the UFC to ever get belts in 2 weight classes and if thats not staying successful in multipul weight classes I don’t know what is. . . or maybe even Dan Henderson after all he did hold 2 belts simultainiusly in PRIDE and he still is fighting in those 2 weight classes. So he should get a spot too.

  262. ISAIAH August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    This doesnt make sence if this list is based off the ability to move to different weight classes and still remain successful Fedor, GSP, and Jackson shouldnt be on the list i dnt think they’ve ever fought outside their wight classes. Rashad Evans and Anderson Silva should be higher on the list, because they’ve fought in 2 weight classes and still remained successful in those 2 weght classes I also think they should add Randy Couture,and BJ Penn because they’re the only 2 fighters in the UFC to ever get belts in 2 weight classes and if thats not staying successful in multipul weight classes I don’t know what is. . . or maybe even Dan Henderson after all he did hold 2 belts simultainiusly in PRIDE and he still is fighting in those 2 weight classes. So he should get a spot too.

  263. jason March 23, 2009 at 9:05 am Reply

    GSP has consistently fought, and beat, Top 10 competition for years, outside of the one KO loss.

    Although Fedor always wins, he has only recently fought top competition after years of taking on lower tier fighters.

  264. jason August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    GSP has consistently fought, and beat, Top 10 competition for years, outside of the one KO loss.

    Although Fedor always wins, he has only recently fought top competition after years of taking on lower tier fighters.

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  266. Jac March 21, 2009 at 4:05 pm Reply

    I second what Tim said, and as far as “division dominance” goes it should be 1.Miguel Torres 2.Fedor Emelianenko 3.Georges St Pierre

  267. Jac August 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm Reply

    I second what Tim said, and as far as “division dominance” goes it should be 1.Miguel Torres 2.Fedor Emelianenko 3.Georges St Pierre

  268. Tim March 19, 2009 at 5:14 pm Reply

    Why is JSP above Fedor? he has a better record and the one fight he did lose was because of an illegal elbow.

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