Strawweight (121.9lbs and below) fighter ranks
The rankings presented are computerized and provided by the FightMatrix ranking system, which utilizes a comprehensive MMA fight database to provide objective rankings. Please note, that these rankings ONLY contain fighters who have had at least one professional fight some time in the 450 days prior to the ranking date.
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43 Comments
JCS, just so you know, the UFC is _not_ about to add a Strawweight division. Not this year, not next year, probably not the year after that. They did not go to Mexico to scout Strawweights, and you of all people should know that because you know that there aren’t any male Strawweights in Mexico or Central America. MMAJunkie implied some misinformed ignorant bullshit in an informal media scrum and Dana White failed to correct him and just started talking about the Mexican market, not 115 lbs. fighters. It’s not like Dana White is gonna start attacking the idea of UFC Strawweights while defending Flyweights in the next breath either.
Now, long term I’m sure Dana White would like a Strawweight division in his promotion which is something he’s said before, for the sake of international expansion. But there aint a Strawweight worth a damn outside Asia/Pacific Islands, and I know because after the initial story broke a couple weeks ago I actually went through all 411 profiles in the Sherdog database listed as “Strawweights” (95% female and/or Asian).
A male strawweight section here may make sense because it is a legitimate competitive division, at least in Japan and the Philippines.
Just keep in mind it aint about to explode anytime soon.
I understand your point.. but everything is so tight, I can have a guy weigh in 1 pound light for a 121 fight and suddenly he’s 120 because I track weigh-in weights when available. If I use 119 as a cut-off, the same thing happens with the Pancrase 120lb division. It’s either got to stay where it is, or go all the way down to 118 which seems too restrictive.
When deciding on this upper limit I said to myself.. if these guys had to choose 125 or 115 (let’s say UFC had both), where would they end up? Currently, the Top 4 (I think) would go to 115.
Looking at the recent weigh-in data for some of the top fighters per Tapology.com, it seems like the actual weight class in both Pancrase and ZST now is 54 kg or ~119 lbs.
And PXC seems to have a normal 115 SW class now.
Maybe it’d be okay to make things a just a little stricter at 120.9 lbs. now? I don’t think it would affect the top 15 much, and possibly not at all, to be honest.
Just a thought.
You’re registered, you just need to have a recent fight and enough points to be ranked.
Is Sunabe Mitsuhisa(Japan) performed ranking of by the flyweight divition not strawweight?
Though Abe and Eizumi fighting against Sunabe are strawweight,Sunabe thinks that it is the flyweight divition to be strange.
I suppose it’s nice to see Brazilians infiltrate this list, and show that this weight class is popping up just a tiny bit in the Western world, and I see that it may be getting close to time to expand it.
I have to say tho, I really think revising the weight limit down to 120 or 119 would be the more prudent thing next, since as it is it seems incredibly generous to include weights up to 121 under “Strawweight”. Pushing the ZST 55 kg division up into Flyweight only costs you 2 fighters on the current list.
I think the limit is staying put for the foreseeable future..
I’m a strong believer in: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
However, we can probably expand another 5 here soon.
As silly as I think this weight class is, it does seem to be gaining a bit more traction now with OneFC making a title for it, and it seems that the ratings being given out may justify expanding this to 20 people.
In my opinion 120 works fine for now. I’d probably drop it to 119 though, if I were to move it in one direction or another.
Also, just to elaborate on the Mexico City scouting trip, it was for _all_ weight divisions as confirmed by a participant and the prize was that around 10 fighters would get several months worth of training including room & board at Jacksons MMA, with the chance at a UFC contract. The goal is to crack the Mexican market by finding and developing more Mexican fighters.
If nothing else, having more fighters from Mexico and Central American in the UFC means more support among Latinos in the U.S., a demographic that has been proven to be very financially lucrative for boxing and is starting to spend more money on MMA.
I’m pretty sure there’s a scene in Mexico but it’s basically still in its infancy and it’s unregulated.
We’ll adjust as needed. There are so few that bumping to 121 adds anyway… The Pancrase 120 really muddies the waters. Were it not for that div, I’d have cut it off at 119 and been done with it.
Yeah, I was scratching my head about the Mexico and central America comment.. not because of the division, but because of the lack of scene in general. Maybe they could convert boxers? Haha.
It was a real ballbuster to add this in, so it is staying =) and we aren’t very UFC-centric.. I hear about the side effects of that all the time! For a while it seemed like only Shooto (Japan and Brazil) had a Strawweight division.. then I started noticing the quasi-Straw (Pinweight/119lb) in URCC and the tweener (regular Fly/120lb) in Pancrase. I still don’t know what to do with those two, not to mention ZST has a 55kg (121lb) division. Every once in a while, another random promotion will host a 115 or 54kg or 120lb fight…. so well, we have a niche, I guess. The only question is whether it moves to 121, which seems too high.. or moves to 117ish, which seems too restrictive and would basically be Shooto only.
We’ve been moving guys based on weigh-in weight, so if I’m off a fraction of a pound, a guy gets thrown into a different division since everything is so tight….
121 is over halfway to Flyweight so I wouldn’t go that route if it were me…
If Mens Strawweight becomes a legitimate division outside Asia it will be contested closer to 115 anyway (my feeling is that’s still a ways off but whatever).
I imagine Atom would be at 105. I am aware of 4 pro men’s fights that took place at 110lb limit, ever… and one fighter who weighed in at 105-106 that actually won a fight.
Straw is on life support.. Sunabe just won a fight at 125 and am not sure if he is moving there… so he will shift divisions, at least temporarily. Our Straw is more of a Jr. Flyweight at this point because some organizations decide to bastardize the lowest division by making all these funny limits like 119, 121, etc. We have to set it at 121 for compatibility.
I have no idea what the men’s atomweight division would be, it doesn’t currently exist.
Dana White mentioned in passing something bringing in strawweights to the UFC but I don’t foresee this happening in the near term. They still have not done a great job of developing FLW, and are seem to be focusing on WMMA.
I get a sense it’s either going to shift to 117 or 121. It gets too hairy in the middle.
Strawwieghts! 1st step Fight matrix, Next step UFC
You’re registered, you just need to have a recent fight and enough points to be ranked.
I would like to know how to register in my sherdog’s ranking is:
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tagory-Kallew-dos-Santos-135223
And I have two more fights I’m going to add this month.
thank you
I would like to know how to register in my sherdog’s ranking is:
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tagory-Kallew-dos-Santos-135223
And I have two more fights I’m going to add this month.
thank you
Whoa, an American at #1.
There was a time when Japanese fighters were pretty much omnipresent in rankings (on places like Sherdog, not the generated rankings) at 155 and below, and they started ceding those divisions one-by-one as they got popular in the west. On the women’s side too.
Then they lost control of those divisions one-by-one the second they got a bit popular overseas.
I love Japan, it’s almost second nature to root for Japanese fighters since they’re perennial underdogs these days, but seeing a Westerner on top of a division that barely even exists outside of Japan now is still pretty funny. I know he’s not the first non-Japanese to rule the division (Somdet), but he’s the first fighter to barely even fight over there.
Whoa, an American at #1.
There was a time when Japanese fighters were pretty much omnipresent in rankings (on places like Sherdog, not the generated rankings) at 155 and below, and they started ceding those divisions one-by-one as they got popular in the west. On the women’s side too.
Then they lost control of those divisions one-by-one the second they got a bit popular overseas.
I love Japan, it’s almost second nature to root for Japanese fighters since they’re perennial underdogs these days, but seeing a Westerner on top of a division that barely even exists outside of Japan now is still pretty funny. I know he’s not the first non-Japanese to rule the division (Somdet), but he’s the first fighter to barely even fight over there.
One Championship is bringing in Yoshitaka Naito to face Dejdamrong. That’s probably the most interesting fight I can remember this division producing, since the winner will be #2 in the world at worst, and will hold a belt in the highest profile promotion that uses this division.
If the winner fought Sunabe somehow, it could finally crystalize who the best in the world was.
…not that the division isn’t still in its infancy, but still, interesting development.
One Championship is bringing in Yoshitaka Naito to face Dejdamrong. That’s probably the most interesting fight I can remember this division producing, since the winner will be #2 in the world at worst, and will hold a belt in the highest profile promotion that uses this division.
If the winner fought Sunabe somehow, it could finally crystalize who the best in the world was.
…not that the division isn’t still in its infancy, but still, interesting development.
I think the limit is staying put for the foreseeable future..
I’m a strong believer in: “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
However, we can probably expand another 5 here soon.
Looking at the recent weigh-in data for some of the top fighters per Tapology.com, it seems like the actual weight class in both Pancrase and ZST now is 54 kg or ~119 lbs.
And PXC seems to have a normal 115 SW class now.
Maybe it’d be okay to make things a just a little stricter at 120.9 lbs. now? I don’t think it would affect the top 15 much, and possibly not at all, to be honest.
Just a thought.
Looks like we are close to adding another 5. In all fairness, we have helped things along by lumping in the “Jr. Flyweight” classes that ZST, PXC and Pancrase dumped on us.
Looks like we are close to adding another 5. In all fairness, we have helped things along by lumping in the “Jr. Flyweight” classes that ZST, PXC and Pancrase dumped on us.
As silly as I think this weight class is, it does seem to be gaining a bit more traction now with OneFC making a title for it, and it seems that the ratings being given out may justify expanding this to 20 people.
Is Sunabe Mitsuhisa(Japan) performed ranking of by the flyweight divition not strawweight?
Though Abe and Eizumi fighting against Sunabe are strawweight,Sunabe thinks that it is the flyweight divition to be strange.
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I understand your point.. but everything is so tight, I can have a guy weigh in 1 pound light for a 121 fight and suddenly he’s 120 because I track weigh-in weights when available. If I use 119 as a cut-off, the same thing happens with the Pancrase 120lb division. It’s either got to stay where it is, or go all the way down to 118 which seems too restrictive.
When deciding on this upper limit I said to myself.. if these guys had to choose 125 or 115 (let’s say UFC had both), where would they end up? Currently, the Top 4 (I think) would go to 115.
I suppose it’s nice to see Brazilians infiltrate this list, and show that this weight class is popping up just a tiny bit in the Western world, and I see that it may be getting close to time to expand it.
I have to say tho, I really think revising the weight limit down to 120 or 119 would be the more prudent thing next, since as it is it seems incredibly generous to include weights up to 121 under “Strawweight”. Pushing the ZST 55 kg division up into Flyweight only costs you 2 fighters on the current list.
I imagine Atom would be at 105. I am aware of 4 pro men’s fights that took place at 110lb limit, ever… and one fighter who weighed in at 105-106 that actually won a fight.
Straw is on life support.. Sunabe just won a fight at 125 and am not sure if he is moving there… so he will shift divisions, at least temporarily. Our Straw is more of a Jr. Flyweight at this point because some organizations decide to bastardize the lowest division by making all these funny limits like 119, 121, etc. We have to set it at 121 for compatibility.
I have no idea what the men’s atomweight division would be, it doesn’t currently exist.
Dana White mentioned in passing something bringing in strawweights to the UFC but I don’t foresee this happening in the near term. They still have not done a great job of developing FLW, and are seem to be focusing on WMMA.
Question: If Dana White is trying to get a men’s Atom weight division,doesn’t that get rid of this Strawweight (121lbs and below) division. And are these internet stories of Dana White buying the Mexican midget wresting organization? And who are these fighters mentioned in these rumors
1) DEMMO
2) LITTLE NOIPEE
Question: If Dana White is trying to get a men’s Atom weight division,doesn’t that get rid of this Strawweight (121lbs and below) division. And are these internet stories of Dana White buying the Mexican midget wresting organization? And who are these fighters mentioned in these rumors
1) DEMMO
2) LITTLE NOIPEE
We’ll adjust as needed. There are so few that bumping to 121 adds anyway… The Pancrase 120 really muddies the waters. Were it not for that div, I’d have cut it off at 119 and been done with it.
121 is over halfway to Flyweight so I wouldn’t go that route if it were me…
If Mens Strawweight becomes a legitimate division outside Asia it will be contested closer to 115 anyway (my feeling is that’s still a ways off but whatever).
Strawwieghts! 1st step Fight matrix, Next step UFC
I get a sense it’s either going to shift to 117 or 121. It gets too hairy in the middle.
In my opinion 120 works fine for now. I’d probably drop it to 119 though, if I were to move it in one direction or another.
Also, just to elaborate on the Mexico City scouting trip, it was for _all_ weight divisions as confirmed by a participant and the prize was that around 10 fighters would get several months worth of training including room & board at Jacksons MMA, with the chance at a UFC contract. The goal is to crack the Mexican market by finding and developing more Mexican fighters.
If nothing else, having more fighters from Mexico and Central American in the UFC means more support among Latinos in the U.S., a demographic that has been proven to be very financially lucrative for boxing and is starting to spend more money on MMA.
I’m pretty sure there’s a scene in Mexico but it’s basically still in its infancy and it’s unregulated.
Yeah, I was scratching my head about the Mexico and central America comment.. not because of the division, but because of the lack of scene in general. Maybe they could convert boxers? Haha.
It was a real ballbuster to add this in, so it is staying =) and we aren’t very UFC-centric.. I hear about the side effects of that all the time! For a while it seemed like only Shooto (Japan and Brazil) had a Strawweight division.. then I started noticing the quasi-Straw (Pinweight/119lb) in URCC and the tweener (regular Fly/120lb) in Pancrase. I still don’t know what to do with those two, not to mention ZST has a 55kg (121lb) division. Every once in a while, another random promotion will host a 115 or 54kg or 120lb fight…. so well, we have a niche, I guess. The only question is whether it moves to 121, which seems too high.. or moves to 117ish, which seems too restrictive and would basically be Shooto only.
We’ve been moving guys based on weigh-in weight, so if I’m off a fraction of a pound, a guy gets thrown into a different division since everything is so tight….
JCS, just so you know, the UFC is _not_ about to add a Strawweight division. Not this year, not next year, probably not the year after that. They did not go to Mexico to scout Strawweights, and you of all people should know that because you know that there aren’t any male Strawweights in Mexico or Central America. MMAJunkie implied some misinformed ignorant bullshit in an informal media scrum and Dana White failed to correct him and just started talking about the Mexican market, not 115 lbs. fighters. It’s not like Dana White is gonna start attacking the idea of UFC Strawweights while defending Flyweights in the next breath either.
Now, long term I’m sure Dana White would like a Strawweight division in his promotion which is something he’s said before, for the sake of international expansion. But there aint a Strawweight worth a damn outside Asia/Pacific Islands, and I know because after the initial story broke a couple weeks ago I actually went through all 411 profiles in the Sherdog database listed as “Strawweights” (95% female and/or Asian).
A male strawweight section here may make sense because it is a legitimate competitive division, at least in Japan and the Philippines.
Just keep in mind it aint about to explode anytime soon.