Heavyweight and above (Over 210.0 lbs) fighter ranks
The rankings presented are computerized and provided by the FightMatrix ranking system, which utilizes a comprehensive MMA fight database to provide objective rankings. Please note, that these rankings ONLY contain fighters who have had at least one professional fight some time in the 450 days prior to the ranking date.
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EMANUEL NEWTON vs. EVGENY EROKHIN – YouTube]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0JSHRCdY2HA
Roger Gracie should be ranked at light heavyweight. His last weigh-in was 205.25 pounds. http://www.fightersonlymag.com/latest-news/19-event-news/24319-one-championship-42-weigh-in-results
Try using your brain.
Do you really think so many fighters weighed in 8+ pounds apart in such a uniform fashion? Not only that, but fighters in different bouts weighing EXACTLY the same? Three fighters at 70.3kg.. against opponents weighing much, much more/less? Someone made this shit up.
And yes, what I think DOES matter, because I control the database.
Yes, all I know everyone has their own opinion in the Sherdog ranking Minakov above Congo, figtmatrix believes Minakov weaker of the Congo, and I do not agree that you will not be invented … Congo lost, though, and held at the bottom his shorts, and Congo has not won one who is stronger Minakova, so his position is unreasonable – that’s my opinion.
and here we see that Congo, who lost Minakov climbed higher because he win Volkov decisions , that Minakov laid in the first round and then defeated the Congo … do Minakov became weaker by the fact that he beat the two did not the strongest opponents? Do not it too early then take off from a pedestal of winners, losers towering over them? I would understand it if the Congo would beat a fighter of the top ten ….
So do you get that Congo has become stronger Minakova because somehow beat Volkov , who had prematurely broken Minakov? I would agree if the Congo beat someone who can be stronger Minakov .
Why Oleynik above Minakov when he defeated number 26 almost a year ago, and Minakov win number 13
This is just an unfortunate case of two fighters’ careers going against the norm since they fought.
You’d typically expect Minakov to challenge himself with even tougher opposition and Kongo to keep losing.
Kongo has stayed active at 3-1, beat better fighters and the loss being a split decision against a quality fighter. Minakov sat out over a year and has only fought against much lesser opposition.
Kongo is 40, yes, and I’d probably pick Minakov to beat him again, but the system doesn’t care about age.
Sherdog ranking is based on opinions, ours is not. Hence no point in arguing about it really…
Yeah, totally makes sense to rank Bigfoot directly over Cormier; Tthe guy who utterly destroyed him last year
Maurice Greene beat ed carpenter last week at flawless fc while carpenter was still ranked at #247. HW
Only 85 days until LesTARD is dropped due to inactivity. JDS better be above him W,L, or D to Velasquez before that,happens though.
Barry can kill everyone, in the fight with kongo the referee uncomfortable pat barry i think
KILL=KO
Where is Mr. John Olav Einemo? Granted, I have only seen him fight once (& he lost!), in my hardly expert opinion, I can’t see 20 HWs that would definately beat him. (Was anyone else impressed when he powered his leg out of half guard in Rd 1 v. Pee Wee Herman? Pretty impressive.)
For fight this guys fedor better you retire
Fedor prefer one japanese for fight perhaps a rematch with issi o kosaka
I to agree Einemo should be in the top 50 at least if not top 100 for sure.
Brent, I don’t think we will ever do a fan vote based ranking. Here’s a site that does a fan vote Top 10, if you’re curious:
http://www.mmaplayground.com/top-10-mma-fighters.aspx
We don’t update immediately… next release will fix this.
I really only like to forcefully pull fighters who pass away, to be perfectly honest.
Josh Watson lost to John Hawk on 2/26/2011…most likely at 205
Josh Hendricks lost to Dan Spohn…possibly at 205 on 2/26/2011
Yep. Both will be in our next update. If Sherdog has the show, we’ll have it.
Sherdog has Brian Heden listed with a victory over “Big” John Brown, but he in fact has a victory over John “Doo Doo” Brown.
Both of these guys train at Dixson’s dungeon in Biloxi, but Big John Brown is the Super Heavyweight, and John Doo Doo Brown is the Heavyweight. You can tell by the difference in the color of their skin, Big John has lighter skin than John Doo Doo. Here is a link to the fight
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6998602276318127166#
Smealinho Ramas Record is 4-0 not 3-0 check on sheepdog
Very cool to see Velasquez get his title back.
I still fail to see how Werdum did not become number 1 for beating Fedor (who you had ranked number 1 at the time). Can you shed some light on this please?
Unranked for inactivity…. geez, read a few comments above yours, would ya?
Probably easiest to reach me via the forum in a PM.
Scholten is ranked #235. Sherdog has him listed with a 8-9 record.
JCS, how can werdum not be number one??? he beat Fedor (the guy you had ranked at 1) and he ends up at number THREE? behind brock lesnar who now has a record of 5-2? surely beating the number one guy makes werdum the number one guy, as that’s what usually happens in all your other rankings (e.g. edgar became number one when he beat penn). please explain!
Sorry mamba is fast than dos santos
I’d say that’s a good reason for a forced drop. Then again, we still have War Machine ranked…
where can i find your list of the “big 15” ? maybe put it in the last fought in drop down box , by listing the “big 15” alphabetically first (i see 5 orgs in blue in the drop down now) then listing the rest of the smaller ones alphabetically next.
No problem…I am like obsessed with this site, it’s the least I can do.
Yes, I do have administrative clearance.
If you ask me, if it is old, MMA, and not an obvious work, it should go onto the fight finder.
A guy like Coleman probably gets credit for that because of name value and I’m sure he counted that in his record within the UFC. I believe there is a bit of hesitancy to alter these OLD records… but its starting to happen more frequently. Recently, Royce Gracie’s “loss” against Harold Howard was removed, which I am in total agreement with since the fight never occurred.
Another problem is honing in on an exact date. It always looks more official when you have a date/show details/etc.
Was a bug. Will be fixed in next release.
Since Dan holds a pretty high ranking at LHW.. I would likely keep him there unless he decides to campaign at HW.
Fedor is #1 for losing? Ok.
If Brett Rogers gets convicted for a felony and gets a (non-suspended) prison sentence with that, will he be immediately removed from the rankings?
I appreciate it! The problem affected everyone who never won a fight in the big 15.
Speaking of which, its probably due time I take a look at who we recognize as the Big 15. We’re sort of like an accrediting institution 🙂
The list has been reassessed and updated.
Can you be more specific as to the criteria for a “quality performance”? I notice that Fedor Emelianenko’s quality performance percentage is only 54.5, for example, and Josh Barnett’s is 50. This seems low for two very successful fighters, especially considering that Aaron Rosa, just as an example, is at 73.7%.
Yes Kharitonov fought Mizuno, but i was refering to a match (hopefully) in march 2011 versus Werdum. And since Werdum is currently ranked #3 i wondered about the boost it will give Kharitonov scoring on this list, because Kharitonov will win I think.
Thank you for your time.
NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! aagghh please someone kill me!! only hope sparks doesn’t try to stand and bang with him.. please sparks if you look at this site. please please take him down and pound him out or choke him out , please!!!
As you can see by all the comments. We cannot please everyone.
We suck for not having Fedor still in 1st, not having him outside the Top 10, and not having him around #7.
We do appreciate you guys stopping by.
Brock #1? For what? For beating old man Randy and a guy even Wes Sims went 1-1 with?
Werdum was the first one to defeat the greatest fighter in all of MMA. He is the deserving #1. If not, then why is Frankie Edgar #1 too?
Look around, he’s #78
Lesnar did a good job (relly did, real man), but still, don’t fucking belive this ranking (not that i am a Russian)but it’s relly suck. Look all Ya to this ranking and look to the won matches and think again, is it right? Where Fedor stays!!!
But who am I? ufc 116 was good, must watch it all!
anyway Fedor is the best…he is the first…
rank doesnt show anything… fight shows who is the best…
ok fedor is not number one anymore, not that is not the problem i am sick of seeing ray mercer at 13 he is a boxer who had one fight, all the fighters behind him are far more deserving then that piece of beep
take a look at your #1, fightmatrix. 4-1. You really wanna be the guys that consider wins over Herring, Couture, and Mir better than tapping out Fedor? Really? What the hell kind of math is determining that?
One more month and it will be a year since Mercer’s big MMA win and finally he will start to fall out of these rankings, there is a god.
but that will be 11 days to late to stay on the list , right? can’t we just count his tapout loss to kimbo too?
What the f**k? Why Fedor is 3rd?! Yes he losed to Fabricio but it is only one loose! His record is still amazing no one can compare to it. And by the way, Fedor won with Arlovsky who won with Werdum!! I don’t know how can Werdum be over him and example over Overeem.
Winner is ALWAYS ranked over the loser immediately following a fight. Also Werdum has beat Overeem in the past.
I know it must be hard to rank the heavweights now but I think it should be like this:
1 Shane Carwin (hes the champ while Brock is out, Brock hasnt fort for a year so shouldnt the intrem champ be number 1?)
2 Brock Lesnar
3 Cain Velasquez
4 Alitar Overeem
5 Junior Dos Santos
6 Fabricio Werdum
7 Fedor Emelienenko
8 Frank Mir
9 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
10 Josh Barnett
Could you explain the formula for your ranking system?
KO1 Sylvia
while Mercer did beat sylvia, it has his record as 1-0-0. Didn’t he get submitted by kimbo in a figt a few years ago?
I think mercer shouldnt have even been on there i am still at 48th and i am 7-1
Ok so yes Mercer beat Tim Sylvia, but for god sake he probably will not fight MMA ever again so it is all just a waste of a good ranking spot. Besides if he was to fight regular basis he would in my opinion have a very short MMA career because he is 48 for god sake. Although i would like to see him fight Severn just for kicks.
Hold on a minute! Why is Ray Mercer considered one of the top heavyweight contenders? :S
i think even if mercer fights again he will be gone . because i doubt he gets that lucky punch in again. silvia fought a horrible fight , totally under estimated his ability to get KTFO was too confident in his reach.next guy to fight mercer will take him down and rip his arm off or chock him into lala land.
Check out the list of fighters to beat Tim Sylvia. Fedor, Nog, Arlovski, Mir, Couture, and Mercer.
The first five are in the Top 20 Heavyweight list of All-Time. Four of them are Top 10, with #1 and #2 in there.
Mercer is also undefeated. =)
Unless he fights again 🙂
Ray Mercer is fighting Ron Sparks in Detroit on April 16th.
by my math ray mercer should finally stop using up a spot on sept 6th is that correct?
I noticed that Roy “Big Country” Nelson is ranked #30, yet undefeated Josh “BuffaloHead” Curran, who beat him isn’t even ranked. What gives? Besides, when are we gonna see Buffalohead fight again? The most entertaining fight I’ve ever seen. Plus, the guy’s a single father of 4 and 2 weeks before the fight was flipping burgers at Denny’s. Gotta root for a guy like that.
I think Santos is deserving of a title shot, but his ground game and takedown defense still remains to be seen.
i think its safe to say if fedor doesn’t join ufc hes gonna get a * for not going to the big leagues m1 global would the wwe copromote with cmll nba with fiba nfl with cfl hell no fedor and his handlers are trippin most likely all he would need to do is beat lesnar then coutre then noguiera and maybe barnett and then retire
Thanks for visiting DJ.
Although Ray only has one fight, he obliterated one of the best heavyweights in history. Sylvia had only lost to Fedor, Big Nog, Mir, Couture, and Arlovski up until that point.. all of these guys but Mir are Top 10 historically.. and Mir is probably Top 20.
Our system is computerized.. so to it, Mercer is a god — at least for now.
We don’t have the Wes Combs fight. Sherdog doesn’t… MixedMartialArts.com doesn’t… ?? We’ll add it in.
He won’t get credit for going the distance with Rogers. He still only won a third of the fight (by rounds), which isn’t enough of a factor to gain rating points in a 3-round fight, regardless of the opponent. However, the win against Combs should get him ranked above Combs for the time being.
Where is Kimbo Slice… I don’t see him?
Sorry for repeat posting, but I forgot to mention that Brock Lesnar is in for a big surprise when he faces Shane Carwin. I haven’t seen any of Lesnar’s punching connections do any damage in this sport yet. On the contrary, anything Carwin hits, turns to mush! Can’t wait to see Lesnar’s chin get tested. He’ll fall faster than Gonzaga!
Todd Duffee is the next big thing in the heavyweight division. Not too many people have seen him fight, but he can crush skulls like Shane Carwin. Don’t sllep on Dave ‘Pee Wee’ Herman either. These two are some big & fast white boys who could fight!!!
i cant believe josh barnett and arlovski are in the top 15
Kharitonov would definitely move into the Top 10 – where exactly depends on the type of win, timing, etc. Its not easy to approximate as there are many factors.
how is mercer some how climbing the ranks with his amazing 1-0-0 record where wow he beat a obese sylvia.
Here’s my 2 cents…
– JDS should be above Cain.
– MMA fans under estimate Overeem to much, although as a person it’s ok to dislike him I guess.
– Because Werdum won over Fedor, Brock (4-1-0) isn´t better than Fedor (31-(1?!)2-0).
– Brett Rogers is way to high in the list imo.
dear eric, thanks for coming to the website but you have failed to leave a proper comment. try reading the faq or the other numerous comments about ray mercer. although you have left a far better comment than mel ozuna that guy failed in every retrospect.
I’m surprise Randy couture is even on the top 10 list. The guy haven’t beaten any top 10 fighter in more than a year. Same goes with Brock, the guy only has like 3-4 fights in MMA and he cracked the top 5? Are these rankings based on facts or opinions?
Dmitry Poberezhets is ukrainian.
#17 Ray Mercer Ha.
i’ve never understood how frank mir is ranked above brock lesnar. he was getting stomped on when inexperience got the best of brock. also cheick kongo is a monster. everybody seems to forget how big of a glass jaw arlovski is but whatever keep ranking him in the top ten. Fedor to the ufc!
Kimbo/Mercer was an exhibition.
how the heck does Brock get 449 points???
He beat Heath and Randy, and lost to Mir!
And he is 3rd?
From what I’ve heard over this comming summer “Fedor vs Barnett” “Randy vs Big Nog” and “Lesnar vs Mir 2”.
So that has me wondering… if Fedor wins who’s left in affliction to fight?? but if Barnett wins does he jump sraight to #1??… Ok. Now Lesnar/Mir. If Lesnar wins will there be a Lesnar/Mir 3?? and if Mir Wins again what happens then??
Ok. i don’t have any quesions really about the Nog/Randy fight. My guess is the winner gets a title shot and the loser will fight another top contender like Shane Carwin or sombody.
If anybody can answer my questions please post em thank you
Who is a better candidate for 3rd in your opinion?
The reason mir is above lesnar is because he beat him plain and simple. the winner will always be ranked higher than the loser. It doesnt matter if he was beating him up for the first couple of seconds the fact is that he lost, so obviously he’s going to be ranked lower it ain’t that hard to figure out.
The rankings are based on actual results.
kharitonov can kill schaub struve and this type of ufc guys
Another undocumented fight
Kyle Keeney V.S. Brian Ryan 9/13/10?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZFCp1tnJY
Article about the fight, and another camera angle:
http://www.examiner.com/mma-in-anchorage/tag-team-iii-results-greatland-take-home-two-more-belts-brian-ryan-knockout-of-the-year
Gluhov lost fight with Jermaine Van Rooy
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Konstantin-Gluhov-18678
overeem fedor and werdum in the top 10 my god who is this yankee brent
Will dan henderson be ranked as a heavyweight following his fight with Mr. Emelianenko? Or does this bout have a “catchweight” circumstance that will see him stay in lhw ranking?
What if Overeem wins by split-decision?
Rei Zulu is on Sherdog. That was his nickname:
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Casemiro-Nascimento-Martins-1234
Ryan/Keeney fight was added. It probably got missed because that organization specializes in tag team matchups and other gimmick matchups.
Mikel, I am baffled by your comments. What are you getting at?
I just realized that the nature of this ranking system is representative of the general mind of an MMA fan in a lot of ways. If a fighter loses a fight, especially if he is lower ranked, he falls off the (public) list. MMA fans generally write off fighters when they lose fight, supporting the adage “you’re only as good as your last fight.”
Kinda scary to live and work in such a mercurial sport where your stock rises and falls like the tides.
JCS, I had a question I wanted to ask you…is there any way I can private message you?
Just saw your mention of the Ofiu fight. It’s marked as amateur on Sherdog, so unless it was an Exhibition, I can’t imagine it was anything but pro considering Ofiu’s history. Then again, Palemia appears to be still fighting amateur — so no idea here. Gonna leave it be.
On MMA-CORE.com they have Josh Ofiu listed as losing to Joey Palemia on 6/26/2010. Joey Palemia is listed as 0-0-0 on Sherdog.
http://www.mma-core.com/fighters/_%20Josh_The_Silent_Monster_Ofiu?fid=120819
Joey Palemia’s record from MMA-CORE.com
http://www.mma-core.com/fighters/_%20Joey_Palemia?fid=152713
Not sure what the discrepancy is, just wanted to bring it to your attention.
I actually first heard of Joey Palemia when he was on this list a few months ago. If he was only fighting amateur, how did he show up on this list?
Also, I think the fighter “David Olivia’s” last name is actually “Oliva.” If you look up that name, Oliva is his last name on the youtube video posts and the announcer says “Oliva” as his last name (not that announcers don’t make mistakes). It’s minor, but for the sake of accurateness I guess it’s worth a thought.
overeem 24 in the usa still alive stupid
Does this new revision/bug fix weigh losses to weaker opposition more than losses to stronger opposition? Why are certain fighters falling farther than others?
Rei Zulu, Zuluzihno’s father, isn’t even on the fight finder, which he should be in my opinion since he was a prolific fighter in his time. I know so many of his matches are undocumented, but there is video that exists of him.
It’s been said that some of Dan Severn’s fights, as well as a couple of Tony Bonello’s fights, were works as well.
Does the Keeney/Ryan fight look legit?
Sure. Fedor had a weak recent opposition profile. Werdum was much lower than Fedor when he won, dominantly I may add. The end result, was what you see now.
Had Fedor still been dominating like he was 5 years ago and Werdum was a Top 5 fighter, it’d be a different story.
I wonder if Cole Konrad will fight this year in Bellator at all..
overeem 24 in the usa have a lot of stupid person
Grabowski def didn’t do enough. Do takedowns not count for anything anymore? Strikes from the bottom? Those strikes were better than Barrett’s, yes. Barrett, however, scored multiple takedowns and controlled position for much of the fight (except for the scrambles where Grabowski gained dominant positions and submissions). Barrett deserved 29-28, end of story.
the fact that you have either ignored or havn’t looked at the faq or the several posts and comments about that subject, make you come off as uneducated.
@mel: the fighter rankings are determined by a computer, you nitwit!
Frank Mir looked like he did when he fought brandon vera…it was like he was just riding the atmosphere…..but Brock Lesnar went to work congrats to him but now who’s next cain, bobby, kimbo lol
WOW All along, I really though Shane Carwin was going to KO Lesnar really badly in the 1st round!!! I was in awe when Lesnar took those power punches to his grill and still managed to get out of that round on his feet. Sure, his face looked like “stir fried shit”, but he came out and submitted an already exhausted Carwin really quickly in the second round. Shane now understands that Lesnar’s head is harder than a brick wall WOW
Our primary rule is that the winner of a fight must be ranked higher than the loser directly after the fight. This is why Werdum is above Fedor.
Where did you see that we only consider three years? We consider entire careers, it just so happens that Mark Hunt only loses to high-level competition.. so he’s stuck between the quality of fighters the system believes he can beat and the quality of those who can beat him.
These rankings are an absolute joke.
Werdum belongs at about #8, and Fedor doesn’t belong in the top 10, because if you haven’t beaten a Top 10 HW in the last 5 years what the hell are you doing there?
I want to see these idiots rank baseball. They’d probably make the White Sox #1 because they won the World Series in 2005.
fedor already beat noguiera twice
Why is Josh Barnett shown to have 3 less wins and Ben Rothwell 2 less wins on Sherdog? jcs, Do you use another site to find other fights that aren’t reported by Sherdog?
Sem,
I can’t say for sure how the numbers will break down until it happens, but if Nog gets finished by Werdum he likely will fall out of top 10.
As for your second suggestion, have you checked out our all-time rankings?
Hello Sir, jsut an update i’ve fought twice since 10/6. 2/28 vs bobby fvorw (win TKO R2) and on 5/18 vs Travis Bartlett (win Sub R1) my record now stands at 7-1 my sherdog record is not correct, my UG record is correct
Werdum has nearly twice as many points and it is a decent drop to fall below Nelson. It will be close.
I saw Big Nog being ranked #7 in 01/01/2001 by your generated rankings. Being a big fan of his, I wonder if Werdum finishes him (highly probable imo)it will be the first time in 12,5 years he’d be kicked from the top 10. Could you varify this?
Also, it would be cool to have a list of, lets say 10 people, other than divisional dominance but based on being in the top 10 of the fighters weightclass (or any weightclass if they switch). Is it possible you guys could make something like that? That way you could see ‘rank’ the impact of various fighters on the sport, and their durability.
Thanks for the quick replies Oleg and JCS!
shane carwin is retired that is bad for the sport perhaps is for his paydays lesnar payday against carwin is 400.000 and carwin only 40.000, against dos santos the same 40.000 versus 200.000 junior, against gonzaga 32.000 versus 70.000 gonzaga. Men carwin is bad pay for dana white and the fertittas, you make the right decision carwin, lesnar is retired with 400.000 imagen you carwin your head is worst for the ufc but the same for the pain.
Which are the problem with my coments oleg outside junior dos santos and lesnar perhaps minotauro and carwin.Karitonov or barnett eat the others ufc freak fighters
Crocop lose ok but fight with the best fedor prefer fight with monson
where is Big Nog?
How is Peter Graham ranked so high?
thoughts on guys that deserve credit that are unranked at heavyweight:
1) Evgeniy Denschikov (3-0) 6’0 230 24 years old. won last 11/12/11
2) Richardson Moreira (3-0) 6’3 27 years old. Team Nog. won last 7/16/11
3) Ante Delija (3-0) 6’5 230 21 years old. won last 12/16/11
4) Adam Brearley (1-0) Very impressive. last won 12/10/11
5) Kris Tassotti (4-0) 6’1 242 30 years old. last won 7/9/11
6) Matthew Gonzalez (1-0) 6’3 250 27 years old Marine. won last 5/7/11.
7) Kylan klauzer (2-0) 6’3 245 27 year old. won 5/7/11
8) Jan Jorgensen (1-0) 6’4 265 27 years old. won last 11/18/11
9) Austin Guarino (3-0) 6’3 245 26 years old. won 5/14/11
10) Brandon Griffin (3-0) 6’3 230 25 years old. won last 2/19/11
11) Kinny Ray Spotwood (1-0) 6’0 230 27 years old. won last 5/21/11
12) Chris Birchler (1-0) 6’3 255 24 years old. won last 9/9/11
13) Dallas Woods (3-0) 6’7 253 25 years old. won last 4/2/11.
14) Ben Weyand (1-0) 6’0 245 25 years old. “Wayand” on sherdog. won last 6/10/11
15) Cristiano Souza (4-1) 250lbs 25 years old. not to be confused with the welterweight. won last 12/17/11
Good bout gonzaga vs barry
BROCK LESNAR HAS NOT FOUGHT SINCE 2010,SO HOW CAN YOU KEEP HIM IN THE TOP 10 LET ALONE IN THE RANKINGS. BOBBY LASHLEY WON THE SHARK FIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP, SO HOW DOES HE GET #61.
yes, we had that result prior to ranking update.
I’ve been watching Dave Herman fight for years and he is RAW TO THE BONE
All he needs is some fundamental training and defense work.
HE’s A BEAST
what about pat barry in the lightheavyweight division is too small for big guys.
Rizzo is out of the upcoming ProElite bout w/ Sylvia due to injury.
I’m curious: where would Jon Jones be ranked if he suddenly went up to HW (for example’s sake let’s say in his first HW match he subs Joey Beltran in the 1st round to tread water)?
where is MINOTAURO???
Overeem is the best in my opinion with junior oleg and brentt ok and put mir in the three and nelson in seven jeje brent and fedor kill cain el gringo with one hand
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Yes Gluhov lost. This will be represented in this next update.
Dana is crhitsmas o navidad im spanish ok vasco put fedor vs cain and you see cain ko again give fedor a oportunity es navidad and give a oportunity too for kharitonov
good fight is kharitonov vs cormier in strikeforce, cormier win kharitonov is real that guy is very good fighter,the real black fedor
Thanks interesting link but I think those rankings are also sufferring from the hangover effects of the Fedor era. Even in my updated versions I have Allistair and Werdum ranked very high. This is only because of the way they have entered the UFC in style against real challengers like Brock and Roy. I don’t think either guy will dethrone JDS. I think Cain and JDS may split among many fights but it is too close to call and for now I would have liked to see Cain have another matchup first against Roy, Frank or the Werdum vs Russow winner to get another shot. Silva is not even the Strikforce Grandprix Finalist I hardly think he deserves the spot as UFC titleshot gatekeeper. As or more happy and excited to see Struve vs Miocic coming up as I was for Cormier vs Barnett, but no less interested. If Brock came back into my rankings right now by magic he is number 10, bumping Fedor.
Shamil Abdurahimov should fight in Strikeforce or UFC soon, he could cause some damage in either HW division
Best ever, yes. Best now? With a loss and no fights since, he has not proved it.
#4 is not a shameless ranking.
Just wondering, what made you decide to expand MW, WW and LW to 350? Was it because of their relative talent depth as opposed to the heavier (and lighter) weight classes?
Yes, exactly.
Did you miss Werdum/Fedor???
Wow, he didn’t drop at all, was it because his opposition was strong?
Yeah but….
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=mmajunkie-Ray_Mercer_Ron_Sparks_King_Cage_September
Lesnar proved not only that he is deserves to be the champ, but that he can take a punishment. Sure his stand up HORRIBLE. But we all saw that comming. He also proved that he can take a beating, and that his days in the WWE means he’s a puss. He went out there and got destroyed in the first round. But then came back in the 2nd and proved he’s a real champion. He took his beaten and didn’t give up. He also showed how tramendacly well conditioned he is. It takes a lot to give a pounding, but also takes just as much if not more to take a pounding like he did.
If he works on his standup and his submissions, then he could be one of the best pound for pound best fighters in the UFC and possibly MMA. If he would have not gone to the WWE and tried MMA he could be one of the greatest Heavy’s of all time. Then the UFC could only dream of a Fedor-Lesnar fight like boxing dreams of a Pacquiao-Mayweather match.
jcs why isn’t couture ranked at HW coming off the toney fight. i’m not complaining i was just curious to see where he would be ranked.
Do you have administrative clearance to edit Sherdogs fight finder? A lot of the early vale tudo fights in Brazil are not documented on fight finder either, like Zulu vs Enson Inoue, or a few Zuluzinho fights I’ve seen, as well as others. Where does the line for “no holds barred vale tudo” end and “MMA” begin? Also, isn’t Mark Coleman vs Takada basically known as a work? Yet it’s up on the fight finder. It is another fine line to walk.
This is getting interesting. When Overeem beats Werdum… the UFC will have the top four rated heavyweight.
Lesnar number 2 with a record of 5-2?!! Gimme a break! 1. Fedor Emelianenko 2. Cain Valasquez 3. Fabricio Werdum
Yeah, Fedor is still #1. What kind of computer are you using to get these “computerized” results? A PET, commodore 64 or are you just running it through a game of pong on an old Atari?
Maybe it’s a stupid question, but why is one of Russia’s finest not on this list? Sergey Kharitonov is still active in MMA isn’t he? With the news of the upcomming Strikeforce tournament…?
Thanks in advance for an answer.
Inactive. Fighters who haven’t fought in 450 days are not listed.
it will be interesting to see what effect the strikeforce heavyweight tournament will have on the rankings. i’m thinking we could see the balance in power in this top 10 shift in strikeforce’s favour.
Agreed and fixed. Kinda weird how mixedmartialarts.com has this one wrong as well.
ummm….. why the hell is brock#2….. i thought this is some computer generated unbiased $#!T …… who has he beaten to get him the #2 spot…. i guess cause brock is a #2
Fertitta put kharitonov vs carwin two beast the siberian kill arlovski and the colorado kill mir .Two legends.
perhaps arlovski can fight vs brett rogers again
Frankie, you win the booby prize for the dumbest post of the week.
Semmy hasn’t fought MMA in years.
1 Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez, Alistair Overeem, Frank Mir, 5 Fabricio Verdum, Travis Browne, Roy Nelson, Stefan Struve, Mike Russow,
10 Shane Carwin, Daniel Cormier, Mark Hunt, Stipe Miocic, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, 15 Ben Rothwell, Chieck Kongo, Josh Barnett, Antonio Silva, Cole Conrad, 20 Fedor Emelianenko
I would love for this site to hold a vote where the fans vote on each division like this to help sort out who is who at the top? Showcase us in the historical section under a fans rankings category. Feel free post what you think..
An oversight… pro/am is often the hardest thing to determine. The database is essentially a one-man operation (me) and its a part time gig.
For having only really lost 1 fight (not counting the cut)in a career that has spanned 35 fights and some of the best competition available. Everyone makes mistakes…Fedor has only ever made 1.
p.s. Cain Valasquez has even said Fedor is the best now and ever.
when does mercer come off the list or at least get moved to # 200+. i dont agree with your response on august 22nd . even if mercer was a 22 year old prospect he still should not be rated in the top 20 after one lucky knockout. as proof i see many young fighters in your rankings that are 5-0 and up to 13-0 that are outside the top 20 or even top 100.and also mercer is not a 22 year old he is a washed up boxer who caught silvia on an off night and got a lucky punchers ko.
Konrad is part of the Bellator HW tourney in the finals, Herman is being stonewalled on the undercard of Bellator, beating Michael Kita (who lost to Damian Grabowski, who lost to Konrad). Whether Herman is a better fighter than Konrad is irrelevant if Konrad is fighting better opposition more frequently.
How is Arlovski ranked #13 even though he has lost his past 3 fights, 2 of those to opponents outside of the top ten, and has not defeated a top 20 fighter since Werdum in 2007, assuming Werdum was even top 20 at the time. If Werdum was not top 20, at the time, then Arlovski’s last top 20 win was probably against Buentello back in 2005. I am starting to think that the FightMatrix ranking system places far too much emphasis on a fighter’s past accomplishments. If a fight took place over 3 years ago or if it was more than 12 fights previous (12 because it allows for fighter’s who compete more often) then it should no longer count towards a fighter’s ranking. Tito Ortiz is another good example. Ortiz has not won a fight since beating Ken Shamrock in October of 2006. Yet, he is still ranked #22 solely becuase of his past accomplishments. You really, REEEAAALLLLLYYY need to change this.
the dude, see a few comments above yours. Einemo has to beat a ranked fighter to earn a rank.
mistake? Jeff monson is listed as planned to fight Gonzaga
And cormier vs carwin or roy nelson i want to see cormier knock out
The next for antonio silva better cain and for cigano josh barnett or kongo
The normal and natural is cain vs cormier now but…
why Cody East, way ahead of his brother Tyler East and where’s Tyler?
The next for staring anna kournikova
Injuries ruined Carwin’s career. If he could have stayed healthy and finished his existing contract, he would had gotten far better pay with a new contract.
actualicen el ranking de los pesados
Dos santos vs josh barnett is good fight to see junior returns to the octagon with another premier fighter who defeat kharitonov easy another striker like dos santos
Quinton Jackson somehow 39 rooms, and won there, it won a controversial decision, and you are putting it on the 13th? Past achievements?
Should Struve and dos Santos be ranked above Miocic?
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Vitaly Minakov (31) 17-0-0
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Last Fight: 12/11/2015 [Battle of Moscow] vs [#38 HW] Josh Copeland
Next Fight: 6/17/2016 [Battle of Moscow] vs [#42 HW] Peter Graham
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and that the fight Jackson against Ishii, they fought almost on an equal footing, and not the fact that the winner is stronger, you are dropped of the Japanese 26 points … do you take into account the merits of the old Jackson?
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that means the Battle of Moscow, see the link on the website of the organization that conducted the tournament
I have a question, and maybe jcs or someone else at the site can help answer it.
My question relates to Mark Hunt’s point rating, since beating Frank Mir. I believe Mark was ranked at #8 before the fight, and after beating Frank (#10), he jumped to #4. This wouldn’t normally catch my eye, as it was a quality victory with a KO finish. It did, however, alert me that he jumped JDS and Miocic by a fair margin. He has losses against both of these guys. The Miocic fight is pretty recent, while the JDS fight was admittedly nearly 3 years ago. JDS has had losses since, but Miocic has not, and he had a KO victory over Arlovski in his next fight, who is ranked higher than Mir.
Is there a reason why both these men are ranked lower? From jcs’s comment above, it appears Miocic is being blocked by JDS for his loss to him. Wouldn’t the same be true for Hunt as it relates to Miocic? I really enjoy the objectivity to these rankings, but admittedly, every time I’ve glanced at the HW rankings the past two weeks I have been personally placing Hunt at #6 behind these two.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply, jcs. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.
For as much as the top 3 at women’s BW has been deemed an exercise of rock, paper, scissors the HW division is like an 8-12 person game, except all of the players have rock, and the rocks are actually boulders, and the boulders are their fists, which can suddenly knock out any of the other players. It’s pretty incredible how many fighters there are in the top 10 at HW right now who have a win against fighter X, but also have a loss against fighter Y, where fighter X beat fighter Y.
I don’t envy your task. It’s very possible this will naturally sort itself out in the coming two months, though. There are a lot of HW main events scheduled.
Thanks again
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My current HW rankings as of 2/28/2016 are slightly different.
1.Werdum
2.Velasquez
3.Miocic
4.Rothwell
5.Overeem
6.dos Santos
7.Browne
8.Arlovski
9.Hunt
10.Minakov
Why the sudden movement of positions of Graham and Goltsov?
Arlovski, Mir, Hunt, Rothwell in the top 10 – what year is it again???
That’s pretty cool. I would say this is my crowning achievement of the week, but then again, you’re the one who has to do the work.
I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, this site is fantastic. I really can’t imagine MMA without it anymore. At risk of being a total ass kisser, I’m happy my observation shed awareness in a way that helps with its continuous improvement.
Re-insertion of recent fight data that was erroneously removed.
Ah, give it a rest already man. Kongo has always been a dirty fighter, that is a fact, but not a quantifiable one in terms of a rating system based on official results. Unless he gets DQd or has points deducted in a fight. In this particular case he still lost the fight, so it’s not only inquantifiable but also irrelevant.
Minakov is the Bellator champion, now tell me how meaningful that is when Bellator can’t get him a fight even though he is healthy, and he’s forced to figt subpar competition in minor leagues? If Bellator ever overtakes UFC in terms of talent, we will start awarding a rating bonus to their champions. Until then, his belt is as irrelevant as Kongo’s short holding.
Vitaly Minakov said in an interview that he refuses fights in Bellator, because I do not agree with the fact that his salary is lower than that of the Americans.
Looks like there is an issue with Oleinik’s last fight (Rosholt) and Rosholt’s next fight not shoing (Copeland)
Minakov beat Congo, and this despite the fact that the Congo had been warned for violating the rules that kept the enemy of the shorts, using the fact that the referee does not see … and Minakov Belator champion, and this is not an opinion but a fact.
Eddie Sanchez [HW #22] vs. Damian Grabowski [HW #31] on MMA Attack 2, 04/27/2012.
Opposition strength is factored in. For example, Fedor didn’t get a quality performance for beating Hong Man Choi. However, he also didn’t get to #3 beating entirely scrubs. Its just another metric.
Will there be expansions of the LHW and HW rankings up to 300?
Fixed
Yes. Looks like it.
Will he be going bye bye?
Mercer could not get medically cleared.
The loss to Kimbo was not an official pro bout, plus it wouldn’t affect Mercer’s win over Sylvia as it came prior.
In reality, if Mercer was a 22 year old MMA phenom prospect, there would be no beef about his placement.
Mercer won’t stay on the list for 11 days, but he’d come back on it somewhere.. depending on the result.
The Rankings are great, just glad Ray Mercer is not a head of Fedor that would be absurd. Dave Herman is a great heavyweight prospect BTW, hope he will be in the Bellator heavyweight tournament.
everyone is signed to a muti fight contract, even if you sign a 1 fight deal, if you win it becomes a muti fight contract.
and he’ll likely get another fight and lose than will be cut.
Werdum beat Fedor
Overeem gained a few points but not enough to move up a spot.
If he beats Fedor & Werdum in 2011 he MIGHT be #1 especially since Cain Velasquez is out with an injury until fall, and Lesnar wants to do pro-wrestling instead of fighting.
oh great aleks just had to lose to peter graham, now we are going to have to read countless retarded posts about how peter graham isn’t a top 25 heavyweight.
Agreed. I don’t think Fedor had the recent opposition to keep him and Werdum ahead of Cain/Lesnar. However, I’m not sure you can argue that they deserve to be lower than they are either.
Satoshii Ishii’s debut had been a lightning fast knockout over Tim Sylvia, everyone would have been riding his nuts as a definite Top 20 fighter. Everyone would have been proclaiming him the next big thing, and how they couldn’t wait for more fights. The thing about fightmatrix is it’s a computerized system, and as such is completely impartial. There are certainly times where exceptions should be made and where problems might enter the system when one fluke upset happens, shooting that person up the rankings, and then pulling everyone who beats that guy afterwards up the rankings as well, but there are also major problems with sunjective analysis from human rankers as well. I think Fight Matrix provides a good counterbalance.
i don’t see how Sokoudjou or minowa are even in the top 50, mostly because they are in and out of the heavyweight division. When they do fight heavyweights it is against Bob Sapp/Hong Man Choi types they to me are irrelevant.
Diekman won by TKO in the first minute I believe
Not sure if you included this in the next update, but Geronimo Dos Santos fought Neilton Jose Simao Furtado on 2/19/11 according to Sherdog. Just wanted to give you the heads up, since it doesn’t look like that is reflected in his ranking
JDS, Mir, Velasquez, Overeem, , Big Country, Carwin, Barnett, Kongo, Hapa, Big Nog, Scaub, Santos, Cormier, Russow, Werdum, Fedor, Gonzaga, Struve, Herman, Sanchez, Arlovski, Sylvia, Monson, Conrad, Lopez, Karitonov. Top 25, Update; Current retirements accounted for are Lesnar and Cro Cop. JDS manifests highlight reel splendour into title gold. Overeem is the biggest overall mover, capitalizing on a shot. Werdum gets a big opportunity coming up against Roy Nelson and Fedor and Monson switch places so to speak.. and both prove themselves still very capable in the process.
You bet.
agreed, Dos Santos vs. Cain should be classic
I’ll add fights if they aren’t documented, if I think they are legit. I just discovered a cache of Russian/Ukranian fights between 1995-2005 that did not exist on Sherdog. I added some to their database, and the rest to mine — their interface is just too time consuming but I help out when I can. The problem with those fights, is that you don’t know if they were sanctioned, what the rules were (if any) and if any were works/fixed — it happened quite often in Russia and RINGS as far as I understand. I think the general rule of thumb for those is that if they were MMA, then add them… I don’t think that applies to pre-1996 RINGS.
The ones you mentioned, I’ll look into and come back. When they are recent like that and don’t make it onto the sites, they are either unsanctioned, or looked over. Diekmann/Smith probably just got missed. No idea about the Fulton one though.
I dont quite get how the Points system works, Its a great website but a few things dont add up for me. For example…
Wanderlei is ranked 4th at Mw after 1 win in the devision and a pretty poor previous record. He is my favorite MMA figher but I wonder how he ended up so highly ranked. I have him top 15 in my own rankings but dont understand how he got so maby points after beating Bisping….
Id love to know a bit more in depth of how the points for each fighter are worked out.
Cheers.
dos santos knocked out werdum so how is wedrum ahead of them…. ufc fights should be ranked higher due to level of fighters … who has fedor fought in the last 3 years thats relevant today??? no one plus no one in strike force wants to fight overeem… how can u rank the champ of that company lower than the contenders … strike force n this ranking is a joke
Is Vinicius Kappke de Quieroz gonna be dropped from the UFC now? Does anyone know if he signed a multi fight deal?
I wasn’t aware a Werdum fight was in the cards. I thought Kharitonov was fighting Mizuno tomorrow night?
His placement will depend on the outcome of Mizuno fight.. If Kharitonov loses, he will probably be #80-95. If he wins, it depends on the type of win. He could go as high as #25.
It’s not always that straightforward.. but in that scenario, you are probably right.
If say Pat Barry beat dos Santos, he would not be ahead of Carwin.
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Try using your brain.
Do you really think so many fighters weighed in 8+ pounds apart in such a uniform fashion? Not only that, but fighters in different bouts weighing EXACTLY the same? Three fighters at 70.3kg.. against opponents weighing much, much more/less? Someone made this shit up.
And yes, what I think DOES matter, because I control the database.
Not legitimate based on what? Unless you have contrary evidence, what you “think” shouldn’t have anything to do with it. The fight was originally scheduled for 205 and was changed to 225 shortly before it occurred. I would consider Fighters Only to be a credible source.
Not legitimate based on what? Unless you have contrary evidence, what you “think” shouldn’t have anything to do with it. The fight was originally scheduled for 205 and was changed to 225 shortly before it occurred. I would consider Fighters Only to be a credible source.
That page has been cited before.. and I just don’t think those results are legitimate.
Roger Gracie should be ranked at light heavyweight. His last weigh-in was 205.25 pounds. http://www.fightersonlymag.com/latest-news/19-event-news/24319-one-championship-42-weigh-in-results
That page has been cited before.. and I just don’t think those results are legitimate.
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but I do not agree with the position of Jackson and Ishii, Kongo over Minakov, as well as the sharp drop in men even below those they have recently won … leaving, goodbye.
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but I do not agree with the position of Jackson and Ishii, Kongo over Minakov, as well as the sharp drop in men even below those they have recently won … leaving, goodbye.
And advertising on your site has become very annoying …
why does it say last fought “unranked opponent” everywhere?
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Yes, the fighters entire career record is considered in determining the rating, but the more recent a fight the more effect it will have on the current rankings. Also keep in mind that the lower you go down a divisional list, the less point separation there is between fighters. So for someone ranked in the top 10, a win or loss might only move them a few spots; for someone ranked outside of top 20, the same change in points will have a much greater impact on the change in their ranking because the point spread is so narrow. Hope this makes sense…
and that the fight Jackson against Ishii, they fought almost on an equal footing, and not the fact that the winner is stronger, you are dropped of the Japanese 26 points … do you take into account the merits of the old Jackson?
Yes, the fighters entire career record is considered in determining the rating, but the more recent a fight the more effect it will have on the current rankings. Also keep in mind that the lower you go down a divisional list, the less point separation there is between fighters. So for someone ranked in the top 10, a win or loss might only move them a few spots; for someone ranked outside of top 20, the same change in points will have a much greater impact on the change in their ranking because the point spread is so narrow. Hope this makes sense…
We do occasionally update the ranking algorithm but never to benefit an individual fighter. Aldo and McGregor are not even ranked in the same weight class at the moment and there’s no reason to keep Conor ranked at FW until he fights at that weight again.
Head to head results only matter immediately after a fight. As soon as one of the fighters fights again, the ranking will change based on the outcomes. Beating someone doesn’t mean you will be ranked above the fighter you beat forever. The more recent the fight, the more impact it has on the current rankings. We went over the Kongo/Minakov scenario many times so no need to beat that dead horse again.
We do occasionally update the ranking algorithm but never to benefit an individual fighter. Aldo and McGregor are not even ranked in the same weight class at the moment and there’s no reason to keep Conor ranked at FW until he fights at that weight again.
Head to head results only matter immediately after a fight. As soon as one of the fighters fights again, the ranking will change based on the outcomes. Beating someone doesn’t mean you will be ranked above the fighter you beat forever. The more recent the fight, the more impact it has on the current rankings. We went over the Kongo/Minakov scenario many times so no need to beat that dead horse again.
Serg, maybe they changed the algorithm and lessened the importance of head-to-head fights so that Jose Aldo could still be ranked higher than Conor McGregor.
There is almost no plausible explanation for Minakov below Kongo. Minakov beats same fighters as Kongo and better, and Minkaov beats Kongo! System used to be better, maybe has become edited for desired results
Serg, maybe they changed the algorithm and lessened the importance of head-to-head fights so that Jose Aldo could still be ranked higher than Conor McGregor.
There is almost no plausible explanation for Minakov below Kongo. Minakov beats same fighters as Kongo and better, and Minkaov beats Kongo! System used to be better, maybe has become edited for desired results
Quinton Jackson somehow 39 rooms, and won there, it won a controversial decision, and you are putting it on the 13th? Past achievements?
Again you Kongo Minakov above, you probably do not think about the power fighters, and the likelihood of his victory, and a coincidence?
Should Struve and dos Santos be ranked above Miocic?
I do not understand why again Kongo above Minakov, which he lost, despite the fact that he kept his shorts? And do not say that Kongo defeated a strong opponent, a strong opponent somehow won Volkov, whose Minakov just killed. Stop humiliating Minakova, which puts on Sherdog eighth place. I do not agree with your system, when the down-and-out accidentally strong fighter flies once a few notches down … why you convicted of doping retain their positions?
Again you Kongo Minakov above, you probably do not think about the power fighters, and the likelihood of his victory, and a coincidence?
I do not understand why again Kongo above Minakov, which he lost, despite the fact that he kept his shorts? And do not say that Kongo defeated a strong opponent, a strong opponent somehow won Volkov, whose Minakov just killed. Stop humiliating Minakova, which puts on Sherdog eighth place. I do not agree with your system, when the down-and-out accidentally strong fighter flies once a few notches down … why you convicted of doping retain their positions?
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Hey, I did not understand what this word means “experiencing”, and the dictionary does not translate, I’m Russian … but just once on your site there was a transition, and I was offered a clean smart phone through any application … and it only happens on a regular basis through your site
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then it goes to my mobile operator and offers a paid service connect me … it happens on a regular basis, and without cause, simply by scrolling your rankings
then somewhere moves and requires something to download, if you try to return to your site does not let go, and persists in his work. In the end, have to close and restart.
Hey . permanently from your site get on ( http://free.com-00.site/?utm_term=18264648115&clickverify=1&utm_content=e6c2c6dcd68fcddfcfd597cda696a4968c8bb88f8a8fbc8db2ddc5dddab7c1dbeeeeeee0e0eae88db21b ).This happens simply by switching to a different weight class in the rating if you do not have time to press the brake. Nowhere else this is not observed, the same on your site permanently.
then it goes to my mobile operator and offers a paid service connect me … it happens on a regular basis, and without cause, simply by scrolling your rankings
then somewhere moves and requires something to download, if you try to return to your site does not let go, and persists in his work. In the end, have to close and restart.
Hey . permanently from your site get on ( http://free.com-00.site/?utm_term=18264648115&clickverify=1&utm_content=e6c2c6dcd68fcddfcfd597cda696a4968c8bb88f8a8fbc8db2ddc5dddab7c1dbeeeeeee0e0eae88db21b ).This happens simply by switching to a different weight class in the rating if you do not have time to press the brake. Nowhere else this is not observed, the same on your site permanently.
http://fightnights.ru/news/rezultaty-turnira-fight-nights-global-50/
that means the Battle of Moscow, see the link on the website of the organization that conducted the tournament
does not agree with the installation of quinton jakson on the 11th place, especially since many people believe that he has lost the battle … he was not stronger Minakov. Though not injured Satoshi , raised.
does not agree with the installation of quinton jakson on the 11th place, especially since many people believe that he has lost the battle … he was not stronger Minakov. Though not injured Satoshi , raised.
I’m sorry about the last statements. But I beg to correct here:
Vitaly Minakov (31) 17-0-0
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Last Fight: 12/11/2015 [Battle of Moscow] vs [#38 HW] Josh Copeland
Next Fight: 6/17/2016 [Battle of Moscow] vs [#42 HW] Peter Graham
This tournament holds the organization EFN -Eurasia Fight Nights .
Please let us know if this is still happening or if it happens again.
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Mobile or desktop? What browser and OS?
Are you working on the HW rankings or do you even realize they aren’t updated?
Are you working on the HW rankings or do you even realize they aren’t updated?
Things like this are totally expected.. having to be nimble and handle unexpected scenarios.. we’re way, way more than just a mathematical formula.
I also have secondary rating stuff behind the scenes.. so this is quite a bit more than a “gut feeling” sort of change… but often times, that’s how the ball gets rolling on this sort of thing.
Appreciate you commenting and being a viewer.
That’s pretty cool. I would say this is my crowning achievement of the week, but then again, you’re the one who has to do the work.
I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, this site is fantastic. I really can’t imagine MMA without it anymore. At risk of being a total ass kisser, I’m happy my observation shed awareness in a way that helps with its continuous improvement.
Things like this are totally expected.. having to be nimble and handle unexpected scenarios.. we’re way, way more than just a mathematical formula.
I also have secondary rating stuff behind the scenes.. so this is quite a bit more than a “gut feeling” sort of change… but often times, that’s how the ball gets rolling on this sort of thing.
Appreciate you commenting and being a viewer.
This WILL likely result in a change, coming soon. I really can’t justify Miocic’s placement.
Thanks for taking the time to reply, jcs. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.
For as much as the top 3 at women’s BW has been deemed an exercise of rock, paper, scissors the HW division is like an 8-12 person game, except all of the players have rock, and the rocks are actually boulders, and the boulders are their fists, which can suddenly knock out any of the other players. It’s pretty incredible how many fighters there are in the top 10 at HW right now who have a win against fighter X, but also have a loss against fighter Y, where fighter X beat fighter Y.
I don’t envy your task. It’s very possible this will naturally sort itself out in the coming two months, though. There are a lot of HW main events scheduled.
Thanks again
It’s a complicated situation, because of how the system works AND how the involved’s careers have panned out in recent times. This kind of reminds me of Clark Griswold in Vegas Vacation when they visit the hoover dam.. he keeps shoving gum in the holes, only to have water come out of another hole.
You are correct, JdS is blocking Miocic, who is strangely enough blocking Arlovski. Hunt’s win over Mir cleared the block that Miocic had over Hunt, because Miocic was much lower rated when he beat Hunt than he is now. The block JdS would have had over Hunt has expired.
I’ll take a deeper dive into this, just to ensure there’s no bug. I fear though, that this is the dark side of the blocking mechanism rearing its head… and maybe there should be a secondary blocking clear.. an exception, if you will, because Miocic’s ascent should have been enough to clear this block… it just so happens that the perfect (or imperfect) situation has arisen to prevent it.
This WILL likely result in a change, coming soon. I really can’t justify Miocic’s placement.
It’s a complicated situation, because of how the system works AND how the involved’s careers have panned out in recent times. This kind of reminds me of Clark Griswold in Vegas Vacation when they visit the hoover dam.. he keeps shoving gum in the holes, only to have water come out of another hole.
You are correct, JdS is blocking Miocic, who is strangely enough blocking Arlovski. Hunt’s win over Mir cleared the block that Miocic had over Hunt, because Miocic was much lower rated when he beat Hunt than he is now. The block JdS would have had over Hunt has expired.
I’ll take a deeper dive into this, just to ensure there’s no bug. I fear though, that this is the dark side of the blocking mechanism rearing its head… and maybe there should be a secondary blocking clear.. an exception, if you will, because Miocic’s ascent should have been enough to clear this block… it just so happens that the perfect (or imperfect) situation has arisen to prevent it.
I have a question, and maybe jcs or someone else at the site can help answer it.
My question relates to Mark Hunt’s point rating, since beating Frank Mir. I believe Mark was ranked at #8 before the fight, and after beating Frank (#10), he jumped to #4. This wouldn’t normally catch my eye, as it was a quality victory with a KO finish. It did, however, alert me that he jumped JDS and Miocic by a fair margin. He has losses against both of these guys. The Miocic fight is pretty recent, while the JDS fight was admittedly nearly 3 years ago. JDS has had losses since, but Miocic has not, and he had a KO victory over Arlovski in his next fight, who is ranked higher than Mir.
Is there a reason why both these men are ranked lower? From jcs’s comment above, it appears Miocic is being blocked by JDS for his loss to him. Wouldn’t the same be true for Hunt as it relates to Miocic? I really enjoy the objectivity to these rankings, but admittedly, every time I’ve glanced at the HW rankings the past two weeks I have been personally placing Hunt at #6 behind these two.
My current HW rankings as of 2/28/2016 are slightly different.
1.Werdum
2.Velasquez
3.Miocic
4.Rothwell
5.Overeem
6.dos Santos
7.Browne
8.Arlovski
9.Hunt
10.Minakov
why Brendan Shaub is still in the ranking ??
why Brendan Shaub is still in the ranking ??
JDS blocks Miocic.. which compresses him down to Arlovski’s level because he is losing points here as well.
In real value, Miocic is worth more than Arlovski and JDS.
Important to note that blocking is cosmetic.
Question: how is it that Miocic, who KO’d Arlovski in the first round, is less than one point ahead of him? It was the most recent fight for both was it not? That seems very strange to me. It would seem strange even as a split decision.
JDS blocks Miocic.. which compresses him down to Arlovski’s level because he is losing points here as well.
In real value, Miocic is worth more than Arlovski and JDS.
Important to note that blocking is cosmetic.
Question: how is it that Miocic, who KO’d Arlovski in the first round, is less than one point ahead of him? It was the most recent fight for both was it not? That seems very strange to me. It would seem strange even as a split decision.
Minakov lovers rejoice. We got some new “old” bout history.. and as a result, Minakov rises back above Kongo.
As I’ve said many times before.. the quality of the rankings is always limited by the accuracy of the data.
Minakov lovers rejoice. We got some new “old” bout history.. and as a result, Minakov rises back above Kongo.
As I’ve said many times before.. the quality of the rankings is always limited by the accuracy of the data.
I hope he makes his way to UFC then…
I hope he makes his way to UFC then…
Vitaly Minakov said in an interview that he refuses fights in Bellator, because I do not agree with the fact that his salary is lower than that of the Americans.
Hi,
Just wanted to point out that my record is incorrect, this mistake also occurred on sherdog but I was able to correct it. Just thought I should give you an update!
Cheers
Stuart
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Stuart-Austin-79964
Hi,
Just wanted to point out that my record is incorrect, this mistake also occurred on sherdog but I was able to correct it. Just thought I should give you an update!
Cheers
Stuart
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Stuart-Austin-79964
My guess is we were missing one of his fights.
My guess is we were missing one of his fights.
why denis goltsov rose so suddenly?
why denis goltsov rose so suddenly?
Wat??
Wat??
Apparently here appreciate not force of fighter, but the ability to find and defeat the enemy profitable.
Apparently here appreciate not force of fighter, but the ability to find and defeat the enemy profitable.
Let’s agree to disagree because this is getting nowhere. They are 5 rating points apart. A good win against quality opponent for Minakov and he will be ranked over Kongo again. Unfortunately rumor has it that he is fighting in the Rizin in Japan on New Years, haven’t heard an opponent named yet but it will most likely be someone ranked outside of Top 100 again…
Let’s agree to disagree because this is getting nowhere. They are 5 rating points apart. A good win against quality opponent for Minakov and he will be ranked over Kongo again. Unfortunately rumor has it that he is fighting in the Rizin in Japan on New Years, haven’t heard an opponent named yet but it will most likely be someone ranked outside of Top 100 again…
So do you get that Congo has become stronger Minakova because somehow beat Volkov , who had prematurely broken Minakov? I would agree if the Congo beat someone who can be stronger Minakov .
Ah, give it a rest already man. Kongo has always been a dirty fighter, that is a fact, but not a quantifiable one in terms of a rating system based on official results. Unless he gets DQd or has points deducted in a fight. In this particular case he still lost the fight, so it’s not only inquantifiable but also irrelevant.
Minakov is the Bellator champion, now tell me how meaningful that is when Bellator can’t get him a fight even though he is healthy, and he’s forced to figt subpar competition in minor leagues? If Bellator ever overtakes UFC in terms of talent, we will start awarding a rating bonus to their champions. Until then, his belt is as irrelevant as Kongo’s short holding.
Minakov beat Congo, and this despite the fact that the Congo had been warned for violating the rules that kept the enemy of the shorts, using the fact that the referee does not see … and Minakov Belator champion, and this is not an opinion but a fact.
Yeah if I was making a personal ranking list based on my opinion, I’d have Minakov over Kongo also. Not how the system works tho, and we only have Bellator to blame for not giving him fights. Hope to see him in the UFC some day.
This is just an unfortunate case of two fighters’ careers going against the norm since they fought.
You’d typically expect Minakov to challenge himself with even tougher opposition and Kongo to keep losing.
Kongo has stayed active at 3-1, beat better fighters and the loss being a split decision against a quality fighter. Minakov sat out over a year and has only fought against much lesser opposition.
Kongo is 40, yes, and I’d probably pick Minakov to beat him again, but the system doesn’t care about age.
Sherdog ranking is based on opinions, ours is not. Hence no point in arguing about it really…
Yeah if I was making a personal ranking list based on my opinion, I’d have Minakov over Kongo also. Not how the system works tho, and we only have Bellator to blame for not giving him fights. Hope to see him in the UFC some day.
Yes, all I know everyone has their own opinion in the Sherdog ranking Minakov above Congo, figtmatrix believes Minakov weaker of the Congo, and I do not agree that you will not be invented … Congo lost, though, and held at the bottom his shorts, and Congo has not won one who is stronger Minakova, so his position is unreasonable – that’s my opinion.
Please read these if you haven’t yet – it will help you understand how ratings are generated. Age is not taken into account, neither are accomplishments in other combat sports. Everything is based purely on professional MMA fight results.
http://www.fightmatrix.com/faq/
http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/
Please read these if you haven’t yet – it will help you understand how ratings are generated. Age is not taken into account, neither are accomplishments in other combat sports. Everything is based purely on professional MMA fight results.
http://www.fightmatrix.com/faq/
http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/
and here we see that Congo, who lost Minakov climbed higher because he win Volkov decisions , that Minakov laid in the first round and then defeated the Congo … do Minakov became weaker by the fact that he beat the two did not the strongest opponents? Do not it too early then take off from a pedestal of winners, losers towering over them? I would understand it if the Congo would beat a fighter of the top ten ….
apparently it uses some kind of algorithm that takes into account the interval between fights, and as an enemy … but why not then taken into account the age and stability, because firstly Minakov younger Congo, and secondly Minakov has no losses, and is 4 times champion World Sambo, showing its stability
Why Oleynik above Minakov when he defeated number 26 almost a year ago, and Minakov win number 13
apparently it uses some kind of algorithm that takes into account the interval between fights, and as an enemy … but why not then taken into account the age and stability, because firstly Minakov younger Congo, and secondly Minakov has no losses, and is 4 times champion World Sambo, showing its stability
Minakov prematurely defeated all except Congo, and Volkov, too, is the Congo held somehow! And let us remember the fight Minakov-Congo, where cunning Congo held Minakova for cowards, but honestly it Minakov won … and the one who is smarter, holding the shorts, and lost, was on top, simply because Minakov champion expects a worthy challenger, and in anticipation of spent a few fights with little-known fighters, because Belatore all won!
Minakov prematurely defeated all except Congo, and Volkov, too, is the Congo held somehow! And let us remember the fight Minakov-Congo, where cunning Congo held Minakova for cowards, but honestly it Minakov won … and the one who is smarter, holding the shorts, and lost, was on top, simply because Minakov champion expects a worthy challenger, and in anticipation of spent a few fights with little-known fighters, because Belatore all won!
Who did Minakov defeat that beat Kongo?
After the Kongo fight, Minakov was rightfully ranked ahead of him. His ranking decayed after a year of inactivity, and two guys he fought since then were not highly ranked. Meanwhile Kongo stayed active and beat higher ranked fighters – nothing subjective about it.
Don’t know why Bellator isn’t giving Minakov fights though. That is a good question…
Who did Minakov defeat that beat Kongo?
After the Kongo fight, Minakov was rightfully ranked ahead of him. His ranking decayed after a year of inactivity, and two guys he fought since then were not highly ranked. Meanwhile Kongo stayed active and beat higher ranked fighters – nothing subjective about it.
Don’t know why Bellator isn’t giving Minakov fights though. That is a good question…
But Minakov defeated those who beat Congo, and won more effectively, such as Volkov. And it Minakov champion, and this ranking, it puts into question on the basis of subjective, humiliating this Minakov. And why not give Minakov fight in Bellator we do not know.
But Minakov defeated those who beat Congo, and won more effectively, such as Volkov. And it Minakov champion, and this ranking, it puts into question on the basis of subjective, humiliating this Minakov. And why not give Minakov fight in Bellator we do not know.
Minakov sat out for over a year and has been fighting weaker competition since his return. Kongo stayed active and got a couple of wins over better fighters. They’re only 4 points apart which is not a meaningful difference anyhow.
it is for what services Cheik Kongo is exalted over Vitaly Minakov ? can someone answer?
Minakov sat out for over a year and has been fighting weaker competition since his return. Kongo stayed active and got a couple of wins over better fighters. They’re only 4 points apart which is not a meaningful difference anyhow.
it is for what services Cheik Kongo is exalted over Vitaly Minakov ? can someone answer?
Re-insertion of recent fight data that was erroneously removed.
Why the sudden movement of positions of Graham and Goltsov?
what?
Looks like there is an issue with Oleinik’s last fight (Rosholt) and Rosholt’s next fight not shoing (Copeland)
what?
Arlovski, Mir, Hunt, Rothwell in the top 10 – what year is it again???
James Mulheron and Phil Defries aren’t fighting each other. Mulheron is fighting Rueben Wolf and Defries is fighting Tom Denham
James Mulheron and Phil Defries aren’t fighting each other. Mulheron is fighting Rueben Wolf and Defries is fighting Tom Denham
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Thanks.
I’ve got a few changes I want to make so probably will end up updating before you read this.
Hi guys just wanted to let you know that Paul Taylor the UK heavyweight is actually 7-3-0 not 6-4-0 its on his sherdog report. Also I have a number of uk girls that fight in Cage Warriors that have asked why they haven’t been ranked as yet. Kerry Hughes, Lj Adams, Molly McCann are just a few that have asked.
Finally Ian Freeman (UK Heavyweight) and Andrew Punshon (UK Middleweight have both retired and Freeman as not fought for over your specified time i think.
This isn’t a complaint i just thought it would help you out. You guys do a great job.
Cheers,
Clayton
Thanks.
I’ve got a few changes I want to make so probably will end up updating before you read this.
Hi guys just wanted to let you know that Paul Taylor the UK heavyweight is actually 7-3-0 not 6-4-0 its on his sherdog report. Also I have a number of uk girls that fight in Cage Warriors that have asked why they haven’t been ranked as yet. Kerry Hughes, Lj Adams, Molly McCann are just a few that have asked.
Finally Ian Freeman (UK Heavyweight) and Andrew Punshon (UK Middleweight have both retired and Freeman as not fought for over your specified time i think.
This isn’t a complaint i just thought it would help you out. You guys do a great job.
Cheers,
Clayton
support for velasquez que es de raices españolas and for dos santos, my wife and kids have brazilian blood
perhaps velasquez no but dos santos maybe yes and the other heavyweigths for sure, i am from vasque country in spain and my wife is from brazil i like cain and junior win kharitonov and werdum but is difficult test sorry for antonio pezao but you are slow amigo y un poco arrogante en los weigh in
now dana white see kharitonov kill antonio silva and arlovski and a lot of ufc heavywheigts
support for velasquez que es de raices españolas and for dos santos, my wife and kids have brazilian blood
perhaps velasquez no but dos santos maybe yes and the other heavyweigths for sure, i am from vasque country in spain and my wife is from brazil i like cain and junior win kharitonov and werdum but is difficult test sorry for antonio pezao but you are slow amigo y un poco arrogante en los weigh in
now dana white see kharitonov kill antonio silva and arlovski and a lot of ufc heavywheigts
Hi its Łukasz Parobiec , just to update , I won another fight 30/08/14 against Sam Schilder at pitbull fighting championship , thank you
Hi its Łukasz Parobiec , just to update , I won another fight 30/08/14 against Sam Schilder at pitbull fighting championship , thank you
Are there ANY notable Belgian Heavyweights?
Are there ANY notable Belgian Heavyweights?
hi , why the belgian fighters are not in the ranking?
thank you mike
hi , why the belgian fighters are not in the ranking?
thank you mike
Hi my name is Lukasz Parobiec just to update , you still show my record as 7-3 but now is 9-3 you missed the fight against Michael Holmes 10/05/14 at mma total combat and fight against Erdem Cifitci 07/06/14 at Senshi. Thank you for update
Hi my name is Lukasz Parobiec just to update , you still show my record as 7-3 but now is 9-3 you missed the fight against Michael Holmes 10/05/14 at mma total combat and fight against Erdem Cifitci 07/06/14 at Senshi. Thank you for update
Stephen.
Sherdog sucks at keeping records in the states you fight. You need to make sure they have your full record. We’ll add your recent fights and see what happens when we update.
Stephen.
Sherdog sucks at keeping records in the states you fight. You need to make sure they have your full record. We’ll add your recent fights and see what happens when we update.
Stephen Eakin listed 8-5 on MMA.tv actual record is 10-5 but whatever. I want on the list. Is it as easy as beating someone on here? Thanks
Stephen Eakin listed 8-5 on MMA.tv actual record is 10-5 but whatever. I want on the list. Is it as easy as beating someone on here? Thanks
Hello my name is Lukasz Parobiec you show my record 6-3 and my record is 7-3 , you missed the fight against Neil Robbins at mma total combat.thank you
Hello my name is Lukasz Parobiec you show my record 6-3 and my record is 7-3 , you missed the fight against Neil Robbins at mma total combat.thank you
please update that. http://www.sherdog.com/events/Pro-MMA-Challenge-1-Drwal-vs-Heleno-35905 because you’re still don’t take into account all fights from that event in your latest ranking update
please update that. http://www.sherdog.com/events/Pro-MMA-Challenge-1-Drwal-vs-Heleno-35905 because you’re still don’t take into account all fights from that event in your latest ranking update
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why Cody East, way ahead of his brother Tyler East and where’s Tyler?
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Hello Sir, jsut an update i’ve fought twice since 10/6. 2/28 vs bobby fvorw (win TKO R2) and on 5/18 vs Travis Bartlett (win Sub R1) my record now stands at 7-1 my sherdog record is not correct, my UG record is correct
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Injuries ruined Carwin’s career. If he could have stayed healthy and finished his existing contract, he would had gotten far better pay with a new contract.
shane carwin is retired that is bad for the sport perhaps is for his paydays lesnar payday against carwin is 400.000 and carwin only 40.000, against dos santos the same 40.000 versus 200.000 junior, against gonzaga 32.000 versus 70.000 gonzaga. Men carwin is bad pay for dana white and the fertittas, you make the right decision carwin, lesnar is retired with 400.000 imagen you carwin your head is worst for the ufc but the same for the pain.
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Thanks for the quick replies Oleg and JCS!
Werdum has nearly twice as many points and it is a decent drop to fall below Nelson. It will be close.
Sem,
I can’t say for sure how the numbers will break down until it happens, but if Nog gets finished by Werdum he likely will fall out of top 10.
As for your second suggestion, have you checked out our all-time rankings?
I saw Big Nog being ranked #7 in 01/01/2001 by your generated rankings. Being a big fan of his, I wonder if Werdum finishes him (highly probable imo)it will be the first time in 12,5 years he’d be kicked from the top 10. Could you varify this?
Also, it would be cool to have a list of, lets say 10 people, other than divisional dominance but based on being in the top 10 of the fighters weightclass (or any weightclass if they switch). Is it possible you guys could make something like that? That way you could see ‘rank’ the impact of various fighters on the sport, and their durability.
Respect for bigfoot motivated can demolished everyone and
he only has work more the speed cain vs bigfoot rematch
he perhaps beat cain
Respect for bigfoot motivated can demolished everyone and
he only has work more the speed cain vs bigfoot rematch
he perhaps beat cain
The normal and natural is cain vs cormier now but…
The next for antonio silva better cain and for cigano josh barnett or kongo
If Bigfoot had beaten Cain last night instead of Overeem, would you still rank him below Cormier?
Yeah, totally makes sense to rank Bigfoot directly over Cormier; Tthe guy who utterly destroyed him last year
If Bigfoot had beaten Cain last night instead of Overeem, would you still rank him below Cormier?
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Alistair overeem trains with dion staring or with cristina aguilera o your the man alistair, for another video like i sexy and i know it with cristina
The next for staring anna kournikova
Dion staring the 51 this is a joke this guy looks in the weigh in like a terminator and fights like cristina aguilera in the worst version
Alistair overeem trains with dion staring or with cristina aguilera o your the man alistair, for another video like i sexy and i know it with cristina
Dion staring the 51 this is a joke this guy looks in the weigh in like a terminator and fights like cristina aguilera in the worst version
And cormier vs carwin or roy nelson i want to see cormier knock out
Dos santos vs josh barnett is good fight to see junior returns to the octagon with another premier fighter who defeat kharitonov easy another striker like dos santos
actualicen el ranking de los pesados
Very cool to see Velasquez get his title back.
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We update once a week… the fight was yesterday… give us another day or two, please.
What happened to Monson? Did he move up after the Aleks win? Just saw it wasnt listed as his last fight. Id hope if he can crack the top 25 UFC would bring him back as the ultimate gatekeeper!
We update once a week… the fight was yesterday… give us another day or two, please.
What happened to Monson? Did he move up after the Aleks win? Just saw it wasnt listed as his last fight. Id hope if he can crack the top 25 UFC would bring him back as the ultimate gatekeeper!
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We don’t update immediately… next release will fix this.
Smealinho Ramas Record is 4-0 not 3-0 check on sheepdog
yes, we had that result prior to ranking update.
Maurice Greene beat ed carpenter last week at flawless fc while carpenter was still ranked at #247. HW
Thanks interesting link but I think those rankings are also sufferring from the hangover effects of the Fedor era. Even in my updated versions I have Allistair and Werdum ranked very high. This is only because of the way they have entered the UFC in style against real challengers like Brock and Roy. I don’t think either guy will dethrone JDS. I think Cain and JDS may split among many fights but it is too close to call and for now I would have liked to see Cain have another matchup first against Roy, Frank or the Werdum vs Russow winner to get another shot. Silva is not even the Strikforce Grandprix Finalist I hardly think he deserves the spot as UFC titleshot gatekeeper. As or more happy and excited to see Struve vs Miocic coming up as I was for Cormier vs Barnett, but no less interested. If Brock came back into my rankings right now by magic he is number 10, bumping Fedor.
Brent, I don’t think we will ever do a fan vote based ranking. Here’s a site that does a fan vote Top 10, if you’re curious:
http://www.mmaplayground.com/top-10-mma-fighters.aspx
1 Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez, Alistair Overeem, Frank Mir, 5 Fabricio Verdum, Travis Browne, Roy Nelson, Stefan Struve, Mike Russow,
10 Shane Carwin, Daniel Cormier, Mark Hunt, Stipe Miocic, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, 15 Ben Rothwell, Chieck Kongo, Josh Barnett, Antonio Silva, Cole Conrad, 20 Fedor Emelianenko
I would love for this site to hold a vote where the fans vote on each division like this to help sort out who is who at the top? Showcase us in the historical section under a fans rankings category. Feel free post what you think..
Sorry mamba is fast than dos santos
Lesnar vs velasquez 2 and the winner fight for the belt if lesnar return and overeem vs the white manba cigano
perhaps arlovski can fight vs brett rogers again
Lesnar vs velasquez 2 and the winner fight for the belt if lesnar return and overeem vs the white manba cigano
good fight is kharitonov vs cormier in strikeforce, cormier win kharitonov is real that guy is very good fighter,the real black fedor
what about pat barry in the lightheavyweight division is too small for big guys.
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Cormier have lucky because he fight always with wrestler and juijitsu fighters when take a good striker we see he loss his friend lavar jhonson, cigano, fedor or kharitonov can kill this strongman.
Cormier have lucky because he fight always with wrestler and juijitsu fighters when take a good striker we see he loss his friend lavar jhonson, cigano, fedor or kharitonov can kill this strongman.
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UFC 146 is going to shake the rankings up quite a bit! + Browne vs Griggs happenning soon as well. After the those matchups you will have quite a great first glance at the UFC’s new heavyweight division without the full Strikeforce merger being completed. Barnett Vs JDS or Overeem for the unified belt anyone? Plus when are Nog, Carwin, Mittrione coming back or John Jones moving up?
UFC 146 is going to shake the rankings up quite a bit! + Browne vs Griggs happenning soon as well. After the those matchups you will have quite a great first glance at the UFC’s new heavyweight division without the full Strikeforce merger being completed. Barnett Vs JDS or Overeem for the unified belt anyone? Plus when are Nog, Carwin, Mittrione coming back or John Jones moving up?
Eddie Sanchez [HW #22] vs. Damian Grabowski [HW #31] on MMA Attack 2, 04/27/2012.
Perhaps the fucking money only you know
Fedor you can fight with junior, carwin, cain, barnett, werdum, nelson why no? You can beat cormier, antonio silva…why no? Perhaps the fucking vlindstein your manager
Perhaps the fucking money only you know
Fedor you can fight with junior, carwin, cain, barnett, werdum, nelson why no? You can beat cormier, antonio silva…why no? Perhaps the fucking vlindstein your manager
For fight this guys fedor better you retire
Crocop lose ok but fight with the best fedor prefer fight with monson
Fedor prefer one japanese for fight perhaps a rematch with issi o kosaka
Rogers should try to get a re-match with Fedor. That would be worth watching again.
Rogers should try to get a re-match with Fedor. That would be worth watching again.
what is the brett rogers nobody give a oportunity for him, in bellator or other, vs tym sylvia or geronimo dos santos somebody good fighter
what is the brett rogers nobody give a oportunity for him, in bellator or other, vs tym sylvia or geronimo dos santos somebody good fighter
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Semmy is better than struve for long and sylvia too
Junior dos santos is the champ for his boxing and his stand up
Semmy hasn’t fought MMA in years.
One good fight for mma is semy schilt vs tym sylvia two strikers with very long reach who can win semy schilt stand up ?
Semmy is better than struve for long and sylvia too
Junior dos santos is the champ for his boxing and his stand up
One good fight for mma is semy schilt vs tym sylvia two strikers with very long reach who can win semy schilt stand up ?
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thoughts on guys that deserve credit that are unranked at heavyweight:
1) Evgeniy Denschikov (3-0) 6’0 230 24 years old. won last 11/12/11
2) Richardson Moreira (3-0) 6’3 27 years old. Team Nog. won last 7/16/11
3) Ante Delija (3-0) 6’5 230 21 years old. won last 12/16/11
4) Adam Brearley (1-0) Very impressive. last won 12/10/11
5) Kris Tassotti (4-0) 6’1 242 30 years old. last won 7/9/11
6) Matthew Gonzalez (1-0) 6’3 250 27 years old Marine. won last 5/7/11.
7) Kylan klauzer (2-0) 6’3 245 27 year old. won 5/7/11
8) Jan Jorgensen (1-0) 6’4 265 27 years old. won last 11/18/11
9) Austin Guarino (3-0) 6’3 245 26 years old. won 5/14/11
10) Brandon Griffin (3-0) 6’3 230 25 years old. won last 2/19/11
11) Kinny Ray Spotwood (1-0) 6’0 230 27 years old. won last 5/21/11
12) Chris Birchler (1-0) 6’3 255 24 years old. won last 9/9/11
13) Dallas Woods (3-0) 6’7 253 25 years old. won last 4/2/11.
14) Ben Weyand (1-0) 6’0 245 25 years old. “Wayand” on sherdog. won last 6/10/11
15) Cristiano Souza (4-1) 250lbs 25 years old. not to be confused with the welterweight. won last 12/17/11
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JDS, Mir, Velasquez, Overeem, , Big Country, Carwin, Barnett, Kongo, Hapa, Big Nog, Scaub, Santos, Cormier, Russow, Werdum, Fedor, Gonzaga, Struve, Herman, Sanchez, Arlovski, Sylvia, Monson, Conrad, Lopez, Karitonov. Top 25, Update; Current retirements accounted for are Lesnar and Cro Cop. JDS manifests highlight reel splendour into title gold. Overeem is the biggest overall mover, capitalizing on a shot. Werdum gets a big opportunity coming up against Roy Nelson and Fedor and Monson switch places so to speak.. and both prove themselves still very capable in the process.
Good bout gonzaga vs barry
Barry can kill everyone, in the fight with kongo the referee uncomfortable pat barry i think
KILL=KO
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Fertitta put kharitonov vs carwin two beast the siberian kill arlovski and the colorado kill mir .Two legends.
I say before overeem fedor and kharitonov are very well heavywheigths and overeem prove that with lesnar
I say before overeem fedor and kharitonov are very well heavywheigths and overeem prove that with lesnar
[…] (265) [#12] Fedor Emelianenko (32-4-0) vs. [#45LHW] Satoshi Ishii (4-1-1) Fedor Emelianenko is the All-Time #1 ranked Heavyweight […]
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mikel, I think it’s a language barrier… I have no clue what you’re saying.
Dana is crhitsmas o navidad im spanish ok vasco put fedor vs cain and you see cain ko again give fedor a oportunity es navidad and give a oportunity too for kharitonov
Overeem is the best in my opinion with junior oleg and brentt ok and put mir in the three and nelson in seven jeje brent and fedor kill cain el gringo with one hand
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Which are the problem with my coments oleg outside junior dos santos and lesnar perhaps minotauro and carwin.Karitonov or barnett eat the others ufc freak fighters
mikel, I think it’s a language barrier… I have no clue what you’re saying.
I’m curious: where would Jon Jones be ranked if he suddenly went up to HW (for example’s sake let’s say in his first HW match he subs Joey Beltran in the 1st round to tread water)?
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Mikel, I am baffled by your comments. What are you getting at?
kharitonov can kill schaub struve and this type of ufc guys
overeem fedor and werdum in the top 10 my god who is this yankee brent
overeem 24 in the usa have a lot of stupid person
overeem 24 in the usa still alive stupid
BROCK LESNAR HAS NOT FOUGHT SINCE 2010,SO HOW CAN YOU KEEP HIM IN THE TOP 10 LET ALONE IN THE RANKINGS. BOBBY LASHLEY WON THE SHARK FIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP, SO HOW DOES HE GET #61.
1 JDS 2 Cain 3 Frank 4 Brock 5 Shane 6 Nog 7 Roy 8 Kongo 9 Hapa 10 Schaub 11 Mike Russow 12 Struve 13 Josh Barnett 14 Matt Mittrione 15 Stipe Miocic 16 Thiago Santos 17 Shamil Abdurahimov 18 Daniel Cormier 19 Chad Griggs 20 Dave Herman 21 Fabricio Verdum 22 Gabriel Gonzaga 23 Allistair Overeem 24 Anotonio Silva 25 Mike Hayes 26 Fedor 27 Andrei Arlovski 28 Eric Prindle 29 Cole Conrad 30 Tim Sylvia 31 Eddie Sanchez 33 Sergei Karitonov 34 Jeff Monson 35 Damian Grabowski 36 Shane del Rosario 37 Mark Hunt 38 Ben Rothwell 39 Guram Gugenishvili 40 Mirko Cro Cop. My top 40 HW’S and the way I view the world right now. Mirko would be higher but I had originally left him out due to retirement, but thought due to its recentness and viability of sharing my opinion this is much more believeable scenario to have to swallow.
1 JDS 2 Cain 3 Frank 4 Brock 5 Shane 6 Nog 7 Roy 8 Kongo 9 Hapa 10 Schaub 11 Mike Russow 12 Struve 13 Josh Barnett 14 Matt Mittrione 15 Stipe Miocic 16 Thiago Santos 17 Shamil Abdurahimov 18 Daniel Cormier 19 Chad Griggs 20 Dave Herman 21 Fabricio Verdum 22 Gabriel Gonzaga 23 Allistair Overeem 24 Anotonio Silva 25 Mike Hayes 26 Fedor 27 Andrei Arlovski 28 Eric Prindle 29 Cole Conrad 30 Tim Sylvia 31 Eddie Sanchez 33 Sergei Karitonov 34 Jeff Monson 35 Damian Grabowski 36 Shane del Rosario 37 Mark Hunt 38 Ben Rothwell 39 Guram Gugenishvili 40 Mirko Cro Cop. My top 40 HW’S and the way I view the world right now. Mirko would be higher but I had originally left him out due to retirement, but thought due to its recentness and viability of sharing my opinion this is much more believeable scenario to have to swallow.
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Rizzo is out of the upcoming ProElite bout w/ Sylvia due to injury.
Yes Gluhov lost. This will be represented in this next update.
Gluhov lost fight with Jermaine Van Rooy
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Konstantin-Gluhov-18678
Jeff Monson is listed as next fight for Gonzaga and Fedor both, even though I heard that neither fight is happening… A lot of this future matchup information is based on rumored fights.
mistake? Jeff monson is listed as planned to fight Gonzaga
Jeff Monson is listed as next fight for Gonzaga and Fedor both, even though I heard that neither fight is happening… A lot of this future matchup information is based on rumored fights.
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ummm….. why the hell is brock#2….. i thought this is some computer generated unbiased $#!T …… who has he beaten to get him the #2 spot…. i guess cause brock is a #2
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cole if you can’t spell the fighters names properly who you are taking about, than its hard to take your post serious.
Could you please post your rankings up to 250 than your allowed to post again.
cole if you can’t spell the fighters names properly who you are taking about, than its hard to take your post serious.
Could you please post your rankings up to 250 than your allowed to post again.
how is it that you have brok as number 2 when he hasnt fought nor will he be in a long time. and how mir over carwin. and konrad? what about sergei kharitonov, you have him behind konrad who has never been on the big stage. where is matt mittreone? does tim silvia even fight anymore?
how is it that you have brok as number 2 when he hasnt fought nor will he be in a long time. and how mir over carwin. and konrad? what about sergei kharitonov, you have him behind konrad who has never been on the big stage. where is matt mittreone? does tim silvia even fight anymore?
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yeah i was ranked in ’07 as high as 116. Sherdoog has my record wrong, some of those fights were not pro fights. my record is 11-8 according to mixed martial arts.com and that is right.
yeah i was ranked in ’07 as high as 116. Sherdoog has my record wrong, some of those fights were not pro fights. my record is 11-8 according to mixed martial arts.com and that is right.
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Could I request a new feature? Maybe as an option under the “Last Fought In” pulldown menu there could simply be “Zuffa”, covering all Zuffa-owned promotions, in addition to individual listings for the UFC, Strikeforce, and WEC?
Could I request a new feature? Maybe as an option under the “Last Fought In” pulldown menu there could simply be “Zuffa”, covering all Zuffa-owned promotions, in addition to individual listings for the UFC, Strikeforce, and WEC?
I take that back. He was ranked a few years ago, but not now.
Scholten is ranked #235. Sherdog has him listed with a 8-9 record.
I take that back. He was ranked a few years ago, but not now.
I really only like to forcefully pull fighters who pass away, to be perfectly honest.
I’d say that’s a good reason for a forced drop. Then again, we still have War Machine ranked…
If Brett Rogers gets convicted for a felony and gets a (non-suspended) prison sentence with that, will he be immediately removed from the rankings?
should look into brad scholten at heavy weight. has 11-8 record and has fought some tough guys
should look into brad scholten at heavy weight. has 11-8 record and has fought some tough guys
Only 85 days until LesTARD is dropped due to inactivity. JDS better be above him W,L, or D to Velasquez before that,happens though.
Because he beat Alexander Emelianenko in December 2010 who was ranked at 28 or 29 at that time.
Because he beat Alexander Emelianenko in December 2010 who was ranked at 28 or 29 at that time.
How is Peter Graham ranked so high?
Unranked for inactivity…. geez, read a few comments above yours, would ya?
where is MINOTAURO???
Since Dan holds a pretty high ranking at LHW.. I would likely keep him there unless he decides to campaign at HW.
Will dan henderson be ranked as a heavyweight following his fight with Mr. Emelianenko? Or does this bout have a “catchweight” circumstance that will see him stay in lhw ranking?
the dude, see a few comments above yours. Einemo has to beat a ranked fighter to earn a rank.
Where is Mr. John Olav Einemo? *** In my inexpert opinion, with his size, power, chin, & incredible BJJ, I don’t see more than 20 HWs that can beat him; the big man just needs some more cardio. (Was anyone else as impressed as me when he powered his leg out of half guard in Rd 1 v. Pee Wee Herman?!?!?!) Power BJJ…sweet.
Frankie, you win the booby prize for the dumbest post of the week.
Where is Mr. John Olav Einemo? *** In my inexpert opinion, with his size, power, chin, & incredible BJJ, I don’t see more than 20 HWs that can beat him; the big man just needs some more cardio. (Was anyone else as impressed as me when he powered his leg out of half guard in Rd 1 v. Pee Wee Herman?!?!?!) Power BJJ…sweet.
Big Nog is unranked for inactivity.
Big Nog is unranked for inactivity.
where is Big Nog?
Einemo has to beat a ranked fighter to become ranked.
I to agree Einemo should be in the top 50 at least if not top 100 for sure.
Where is Mr. John Olav Einemo? Granted, I have only seen him fight once (& he lost!), in my hardly expert opinion, I can’t see 20 HWs that would definately beat him. (Was anyone else impressed when he powered his leg out of half guard in Rd 1 v. Pee Wee Herman? Pretty impressive.)
Einemo has to beat a ranked fighter to become ranked.
Is this list for real?????
1. Why is Brock #2… He is a joke. Shouldnt even be top ten. He’s not a fighter, he is a wrestler
2. Why is Cain #1 ! and by so many points???? He hasnt beat anyone good? Who? Brock…. (an aging) Nogeira….. Congo…. REally?
3. Dos Santos is the #1 HW imo…. he has outclassed everyone he has faught. Cain is his next victim… maybe then u will give him #1 spot….. if this list was truly unbiased, then the UFC champ wouldnt be #1 in every weightclass….. Cain is far from being the best HW…
4. I hate Frank Mir…. he is an idiot
Is this list for real?????
1. Why is Brock #2… He is a joke. Shouldnt even be top ten. He’s not a fighter, he is a wrestler
2. Why is Cain #1 ! and by so many points???? He hasnt beat anyone good? Who? Brock…. (an aging) Nogeira….. Congo…. REally?
3. Dos Santos is the #1 HW imo…. he has outclassed everyone he has faught. Cain is his next victim… maybe then u will give him #1 spot….. if this list was truly unbiased, then the UFC champ wouldnt be #1 in every weightclass….. Cain is far from being the best HW…
4. I hate Frank Mir…. he is an idiot
I also loved the Herman Einemo bout. Herman has all the tools to be a champion one day if he can put it all together.
I’ve been watching Dave Herman fight for years and he is RAW TO THE BONE
All he needs is some fundamental training and defense work.
HE’s A BEAST
I also loved the Herman Einemo bout. Herman has all the tools to be a champion one day if he can put it all together.
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You should move Mike Kyle from heavyweight to light heavyweight. can hold (& has held) his own vs. top heavyweights doesn’t make him one! At 205, I have him top 15. Cheers to the best MMA rankings on the web.
You should move Mike Kyle from heavyweight to light heavyweight. can hold (& has held) his own vs. top heavyweights doesn’t make him one! At 205, I have him top 15. Cheers to the best MMA rankings on the web.
Probably easiest to reach me via the forum in a PM.
JCS, I had a question I wanted to ask you…is there any way I can private message you?
An oversight… pro/am is often the hardest thing to determine. The database is essentially a one-man operation (me) and its a part time gig.
I actually first heard of Joey Palemia when he was on this list a few months ago. If he was only fighting amateur, how did he show up on this list?
Also, I think the fighter “David Olivia’s” last name is actually “Oliva.” If you look up that name, Oliva is his last name on the youtube video posts and the announcer says “Oliva” as his last name (not that announcers don’t make mistakes). It’s minor, but for the sake of accurateness I guess it’s worth a thought.
Just saw your mention of the Ofiu fight. It’s marked as amateur on Sherdog, so unless it was an Exhibition, I can’t imagine it was anything but pro considering Ofiu’s history. Then again, Palemia appears to be still fighting amateur — so no idea here. Gonna leave it be.
Agreed and fixed. Kinda weird how mixedmartialarts.com has this one wrong as well.
Sherdog has Brian Heden listed with a victory over “Big” John Brown, but he in fact has a victory over John “Doo Doo” Brown.
Both of these guys train at Dixson’s dungeon in Biloxi, but Big John Brown is the Super Heavyweight, and John Doo Doo Brown is the Heavyweight. You can tell by the difference in the color of their skin, Big John has lighter skin than John Doo Doo. Here is a link to the fight
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6998602276318127166#
On MMA-CORE.com they have Josh Ofiu listed as losing to Joey Palemia on 6/26/2010. Joey Palemia is listed as 0-0-0 on Sherdog.
http://www.mma-core.com/fighters/_%20Josh_The_Silent_Monster_Ofiu?fid=120819
Joey Palemia’s record from MMA-CORE.com
http://www.mma-core.com/fighters/_%20Joey_Palemia?fid=152713
Not sure what the discrepancy is, just wanted to bring it to your attention.
Rei Zulu is on Sherdog. That was his nickname:
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Casemiro-Nascimento-Martins-1234
Ryan/Keeney fight was added. It probably got missed because that organization specializes in tag team matchups and other gimmick matchups.
Rei Zulu, Zuluzihno’s father, isn’t even on the fight finder, which he should be in my opinion since he was a prolific fighter in his time. I know so many of his matches are undocumented, but there is video that exists of him.
It’s been said that some of Dan Severn’s fights, as well as a couple of Tony Bonello’s fights, were works as well.
Does the Keeney/Ryan fight look legit?
Yes, I do have administrative clearance.
If you ask me, if it is old, MMA, and not an obvious work, it should go onto the fight finder.
A guy like Coleman probably gets credit for that because of name value and I’m sure he counted that in his record within the UFC. I believe there is a bit of hesitancy to alter these OLD records… but its starting to happen more frequently. Recently, Royce Gracie’s “loss” against Harold Howard was removed, which I am in total agreement with since the fight never occurred.
Another problem is honing in on an exact date. It always looks more official when you have a date/show details/etc.
Another undocumented fight
Kyle Keeney V.S. Brian Ryan 9/13/10?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZFCp1tnJY
Article about the fight, and another camera angle:
http://www.examiner.com/mma-in-anchorage/tag-team-iii-results-greatland-take-home-two-more-belts-brian-ryan-knockout-of-the-year
Do you have administrative clearance to edit Sherdogs fight finder? A lot of the early vale tudo fights in Brazil are not documented on fight finder either, like Zulu vs Enson Inoue, or a few Zuluzinho fights I’ve seen, as well as others. Where does the line for “no holds barred vale tudo” end and “MMA” begin? Also, isn’t Mark Coleman vs Takada basically known as a work? Yet it’s up on the fight finder. It is another fine line to walk.
After review, those fights seem legit and will be added on next update. I added the Fulton one to Sherdog also.
I’ll add fights if they aren’t documented, if I think they are legit. I just discovered a cache of Russian/Ukranian fights between 1995-2005 that did not exist on Sherdog. I added some to their database, and the rest to mine — their interface is just too time consuming but I help out when I can. The problem with those fights, is that you don’t know if they were sanctioned, what the rules were (if any) and if any were works/fixed — it happened quite often in Russia and RINGS as far as I understand. I think the general rule of thumb for those is that if they were MMA, then add them… I don’t think that applies to pre-1996 RINGS.
The ones you mentioned, I’ll look into and come back. When they are recent like that and don’t make it onto the sites, they are either unsanctioned, or looked over. Diekmann/Smith probably just got missed. No idea about the Fulton one though.
Same story with Justin Newcomb beating Travis Fulton back in October 2010
Diekman won by TKO in the first minute I believe
A fight between Josh Diekman and Randy Smith happened this past weekend…there is video footage to document it, yet it isn’t on either Sherdog’s Fight finder or on Mixedmartialarts.com’s records. What do you do in a situation like that if it isn’t documented?
Shamil Abdurahimov should fight in Strikeforce or UFC soon, he could cause some damage in either HW division
After review, those fights seem legit and will be added on next update. I added the Fulton one to Sherdog also.
Same story with Justin Newcomb beating Travis Fulton back in October 2010
A fight between Josh Diekman and Randy Smith happened this past weekend…there is video footage to document it, yet it isn’t on either Sherdog’s Fight finder or on Mixedmartialarts.com’s records. What do you do in a situation like that if it isn’t documented?
I also wonder how the HW picture is gonna develop if/when strikeforce fighters start showing up in UFC after the recent Zuffa purchase of Strikeforce
I wonder if Cole Konrad will fight this year in Bellator at all..
I also wonder how the HW picture is gonna develop if/when strikeforce fighters start showing up in UFC after the recent Zuffa purchase of Strikeforce
Yep. Both will be in our next update. If Sherdog has the show, we’ll have it.
Josh Watson lost to John Hawk on 2/26/2011…most likely at 205
Josh Hendricks lost to Dan Spohn…possibly at 205 on 2/26/2011
Not sure if you included this in the next update, but Geronimo Dos Santos fought Neilton Jose Simao Furtado on 2/19/11 according to Sherdog. Just wanted to give you the heads up, since it doesn’t look like that is reflected in his ranking
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Werdum beat Fedor
I was wondering if you could explain how Werdum ended up above Dos Santos? Dos santos knocked out werdum in the first round and has 5 win against top contenders while werdum has only had 3 wins. I know Werdum’s competition may be higher ranked than JDS but I feel the win had had over werdum warrents him being ranked higher than Werdum
I was wondering if you could explain how Werdum ended up above Dos Santos? Dos santos knocked out werdum in the first round and has 5 win against top contenders while werdum has only had 3 wins. I know Werdum’s competition may be higher ranked than JDS but I feel the win had had over werdum warrents him being ranked higher than Werdum
Sure. Fedor had a weak recent opposition profile. Werdum was much lower than Fedor when he won, dominantly I may add. The end result, was what you see now.
Had Fedor still been dominating like he was 5 years ago and Werdum was a Top 5 fighter, it’d be a different story.
I still fail to see how Werdum did not become number 1 for beating Fedor (who you had ranked number 1 at the time). Can you shed some light on this please?
Yes, exactly.
Just wondering, what made you decide to expand MW, WW and LW to 350? Was it because of their relative talent depth as opposed to the heavier (and lighter) weight classes?
Not at this time.
Will there be expansions of the LHW and HW rankings up to 300?
Not at this time.
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What if Overeem wins by split-decision?
Overeem will likely land at 4 if that happens.
This is getting interesting. When Overeem beats Werdum… the UFC will have the top four rated heavyweight.
Overeem will likely land at 4 if that happens.
Thanks for the comments and praise. I guess I’d argue that I don’t really see anyone that’s ultra worthy of being at #10 aside from Barnett.
Thanks for the comments and praise. I guess I’d argue that I don’t really see anyone that’s ultra worthy of being at #10 aside from Barnett.
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I think your rankings and system are the best I’ve been able to find. I think you may be placing too much value on historical records though. For example: Josh Barnett(#10)… Hasn’t even fought anyone currently ranked in the Top 10 since 2006. Hasn’t fought anyone who -at the time- was ranked in the top 10 since 2006. Hasn’t beaten anyone ranked inside the top 10 since 2006. The best win he has had in the past 4 years is Pedro Rizzo (#16). His second best fight over the past 4 years is over Monson(#32). There is no way he should be ranked #10; Imho.
I think your rankings and system are the best I’ve been able to find. I think you may be placing too much value on historical records though. For example: Josh Barnett(#10)… Hasn’t even fought anyone currently ranked in the Top 10 since 2006. Hasn’t fought anyone who -at the time- was ranked in the top 10 since 2006. Hasn’t beaten anyone ranked inside the top 10 since 2006. The best win he has had in the past 4 years is Pedro Rizzo (#16). His second best fight over the past 4 years is over Monson(#32). There is no way he should be ranked #10; Imho.
Does this new revision/bug fix weigh losses to weaker opposition more than losses to stronger opposition? Why are certain fighters falling farther than others?
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JCS, how can werdum not be number one??? he beat Fedor (the guy you had ranked at 1) and he ends up at number THREE? behind brock lesnar who now has a record of 5-2? surely beating the number one guy makes werdum the number one guy, as that’s what usually happens in all your other rankings (e.g. edgar became number one when he beat penn). please explain!
Looking forward to the Strikeforce heavyweight tournament. Indeed the balance of legitimacy is shifting from UFC to Strikeforce in the heavyweight division. With 2 of the top fighters in UFC injured, Lesnar and Dos Santos not fighting until June and Mir and Nelson until late May, I’m anticipating the list will stop being so UFC-centric in the coming year.
Looking forward to the Strikeforce heavyweight tournament. Indeed the balance of legitimacy is shifting from UFC to Strikeforce in the heavyweight division. With 2 of the top fighters in UFC injured, Lesnar and Dos Santos not fighting until June and Mir and Nelson until late May, I’m anticipating the list will stop being so UFC-centric in the coming year.
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I just realized that the nature of this ranking system is representative of the general mind of an MMA fan in a lot of ways. If a fighter loses a fight, especially if he is lower ranked, he falls off the (public) list. MMA fans generally write off fighters when they lose fight, supporting the adage “you’re only as good as your last fight.”
Kinda scary to live and work in such a mercurial sport where your stock rises and falls like the tides.
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nope system is fine. take ortiz for example although he doesn’t ever win, guys like hamill who are ranked close to him still can’t finish him. AA is ranked that high because frankly the entire heavywieght division is terrible.
nope system is fine. take ortiz for example although he doesn’t ever win, guys like hamill who are ranked close to him still can’t finish him. AA is ranked that high because frankly the entire heavywieght division is terrible.
How is Arlovski ranked #13 even though he has lost his past 3 fights, 2 of those to opponents outside of the top ten, and has not defeated a top 20 fighter since Werdum in 2007, assuming Werdum was even top 20 at the time. If Werdum was not top 20, at the time, then Arlovski’s last top 20 win was probably against Buentello back in 2005. I am starting to think that the FightMatrix ranking system places far too much emphasis on a fighter’s past accomplishments. If a fight took place over 3 years ago or if it was more than 12 fights previous (12 because it allows for fighter’s who compete more often) then it should no longer count towards a fighter’s ranking. Tito Ortiz is another good example. Ortiz has not won a fight since beating Ken Shamrock in October of 2006. Yet, he is still ranked #22 solely becuase of his past accomplishments. You really, REEEAAALLLLLYYY need to change this.
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#10. Toney fight was just a temporary stop at Heavyweight vs a 0-0 fighter.
#10. Toney fight was just a temporary stop at Heavyweight vs a 0-0 fighter.
jcs why isn’t couture ranked at HW coming off the toney fight. i’m not complaining i was just curious to see where he would be ranked.
it will be interesting to see what effect the strikeforce heavyweight tournament will have on the rankings. i’m thinking we could see the balance in power in this top 10 shift in strikeforce’s favour.
The list has been reassessed and updated.
I don’t know if M-1 puts on enough quality shows to be on there, but perhaps it’s worth consideration as well?
WVR is Sengoku.. and Bellator is right on the cusp. DREAM and DEEP are NOT the same. K-1 and DREAM are essentially the same, as far as MMA goes. I’ll probably tweak the list soon and update the FAQ accordingly.
i agree with bellator and sengoku plus the MFC has some really good level two/ex ufc fighters in it and king of the cage does some good shows. dream and deep are the same org. right? and get rid of the ones that have been defunct for 2 years or more these orgs. carry very little weight anymore with how rapidly fighters are going from the best around to has beens.
If I had my picks, I’d say Bellator and Sengoku would be good organizations to consider putting in a Big 15 listing (if it would still be big 15 after additions)
Glad to be of any help
I don’t know if M-1 puts on enough quality shows to be on there, but perhaps it’s worth consideration as well?
Its in the FAQ
UFC, PRIDE, Pancrase, Icon Sport, Shooto, K-1, WEC, Smack Girl, Absolute FC, Strike Force, IFL, BoDog, EliteXC, WVR, DREAM
This list was statistically derived. A few are defunct and I’m wondering if I should grandfather those in and keep 15 active ones.
where can i find your list of the “big 15” ? maybe put it in the last fought in drop down box , by listing the “big 15” alphabetically first (i see 5 orgs in blue in the drop down now) then listing the rest of the smaller ones alphabetically next.
WVR is Sengoku.. and Bellator is right on the cusp. DREAM and DEEP are NOT the same. K-1 and DREAM are essentially the same, as far as MMA goes. I’ll probably tweak the list soon and update the FAQ accordingly.
i agree with bellator and sengoku plus the MFC has some really good level two/ex ufc fighters in it and king of the cage does some good shows. dream and deep are the same org. right? and get rid of the ones that have been defunct for 2 years or more these orgs. carry very little weight anymore with how rapidly fighters are going from the best around to has beens.
If I had my picks, I’d say Bellator and Sengoku would be good organizations to consider putting in a Big 15 listing (if it would still be big 15 after additions)
Glad to be of any help
Its in the FAQ
UFC, PRIDE, Pancrase, Icon Sport, Shooto, K-1, WEC, Smack Girl, Absolute FC, Strike Force, IFL, BoDog, EliteXC, WVR, DREAM
This list was statistically derived. A few are defunct and I’m wondering if I should grandfather those in and keep 15 active ones.
I appreciate it! The problem affected everyone who never won a fight in the big 15.
Speaking of which, its probably due time I take a look at who we recognize as the Big 15. We’re sort of like an accrediting institution 🙂
No problem…I am like obsessed with this site, it’s the least I can do.
Was a bug. Will be fixed in next release.
Jonathan, thanks for the heads up – looks like an error on our end.
I know Soa Palelei isn’t important to the heavyweight MMA scene, but I scrolled over his name and it said his “big 15 record” is 0-0-0. However he fought Mu Bae Choi in Pride and Eddie Sanchez in the UFC, two “big 15” organizations. Again, I know Soa Palelei isn’t that important, but I just wanted to know if I was missing something about the big 15 system, like after 3 years fights come off of their big 15 record or something like that?
Jonathan, thanks for the heads up – looks like an error on our end.
I know Soa Palelei isn’t important to the heavyweight MMA scene, but I scrolled over his name and it said his “big 15 record” is 0-0-0. However he fought Mu Bae Choi in Pride and Eddie Sanchez in the UFC, two “big 15” organizations. Again, I know Soa Palelei isn’t that important, but I just wanted to know if I was missing something about the big 15 system, like after 3 years fights come off of their big 15 record or something like that?
yeah i’d agree with that. a lot of people would have considered werdum as number 1…lol if any of the guys from team takeover or even some of the sherdog posters saw lesnar at number 2 i think they’d have a fit
Overeem gained a few points but not enough to move up a spot.
If he beats Fedor & Werdum in 2011 he MIGHT be #1 especially since Cain Velasquez is out with an injury until fall, and Lesnar wants to do pro-wrestling instead of fighting.
hey i love the site.
just wondering, would overeem’s win over duffee not be enough to move him up at least one place? and would a win over werdum and fedor be enough to make him number one? thanks
yeah i’d agree with that. a lot of people would have considered werdum as number 1…lol if any of the guys from team takeover or even some of the sherdog posters saw lesnar at number 2 i think they’d have a fit
hey i love the site.
just wondering, would overeem’s win over duffee not be enough to move him up at least one place? and would a win over werdum and fedor be enough to make him number one? thanks
Kharitonov would definitely move into the Top 10 – where exactly depends on the type of win, timing, etc. Its not easy to approximate as there are many factors.
Yes Kharitonov fought Mizuno, but i was refering to a match (hopefully) in march 2011 versus Werdum. And since Werdum is currently ranked #3 i wondered about the boost it will give Kharitonov scoring on this list, because Kharitonov will win I think.
Thank you for your time.
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I wasn’t aware a Werdum fight was in the cards. I thought Kharitonov was fighting Mizuno tomorrow night?
His placement will depend on the outcome of Mizuno fight.. If Kharitonov loses, he will probably be #80-95. If he wins, it depends on the type of win. He could go as high as #25.
Thanks jsc. But where will he be placed when he will face Fabricio Werdum? I mean regardless of a win or lose, like whats his starting position? zero points?
Thanks jsc. But where will he be placed when he will face Fabricio Werdum? I mean regardless of a win or lose, like whats his starting position? zero points?
Duffee is at #60.
Where’s Duffee?
Duffee is at #60.
Where’s Duffee?
Inactive. Fighters who haven’t fought in 450 days are not listed.
Maybe it’s a stupid question, but why is one of Russia’s finest not on this list? Sergey Kharitonov is still active in MMA isn’t he? With the news of the upcomming Strikeforce tournament…?
Thanks in advance for an answer.
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Better candidate for 3rd is actually a tie between Werdum and Dos Santos… I believe Werdum is a better fighter but he did lose to Dos Santos and that should be reflected in the rankings.
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Cain Valasquez
3. Fabricio Werdum and Junior Dos Santos
I might include Brock Lesnar in the top 10 but definitely not in the top 5.
Better candidate for 3rd is actually a tie between Werdum and Dos Santos… I believe Werdum is a better fighter but he did lose to Dos Santos and that should be reflected in the rankings.
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Cain Valasquez
3. Fabricio Werdum and Junior Dos Santos
I might include Brock Lesnar in the top 10 but definitely not in the top 5.
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oh great aleks just had to lose to peter graham, now we are going to have to read countless retarded posts about how peter graham isn’t a top 25 heavyweight.
dear mrs dos santos, your son if going to get beat up by cain, than when he does you can come back here and tell everyone cain is #1 for a reason and the rest of the heavyweight division is overated of passed their prime, or you hate them with a passion, whatever that has to do with rankings is beyond me.
dear mrs dos santos, your son if going to get beat up by cain, than when he does you can come back here and tell everyone cain is #1 for a reason and the rest of the heavyweight division is overated of passed their prime, or you hate them with a passion, whatever that has to do with rankings is beyond me.
Dos Santos #1
Brock overated
Cain overrated (at least on this list. I mean, he is good, but not #1)
Fedor, passed his prime, he has been sloppy in his past few fights
Werdum… please… only reason he is on list is cause he caught fedor in a submission…. he lost his way out of UFC… enough said
Carwin should have beat brock …. but didnt
I hate Frank Mir with a passion…
Dos Santos #1
Brock overated
Cain overrated (at least on this list. I mean, he is good, but not #1)
Fedor, passed his prime, he has been sloppy in his past few fights
Werdum… please… only reason he is on list is cause he caught fedor in a submission…. he lost his way out of UFC… enough said
Carwin should have beat brock …. but didnt
I hate Frank Mir with a passion…
Best ever, yes. Best now? With a loss and no fights since, he has not proved it.
#4 is not a shameless ranking.
For having only really lost 1 fight (not counting the cut)in a career that has spanned 35 fights and some of the best competition available. Everyone makes mistakes…Fedor has only ever made 1.
p.s. Cain Valasquez has even said Fedor is the best now and ever.
Fedor is #1 for losing? Ok.
Yeah, Fedor is still #1. What kind of computer are you using to get these “computerized” results? A PET, commodore 64 or are you just running it through a game of pong on an old Atari?
Lesnar number 2 with a record of 5-2?!! Gimme a break! 1. Fedor Emelianenko 2. Cain Valasquez 3. Fabricio Werdum
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Was at 212.
James Irvin’s fight against Jorge Oliveira was at HW?
Was at 212.
James Irvin’s fight against Jorge Oliveira was at HW?
Fixed
Dmitry Poberezhets is ukrainian.
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Wow, he didn’t drop at all, was it because his opposition was strong?
I guess Miller stuck around somehow. 😐
I guess Miller stuck around somehow. 😐
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Thanks…trimming the fat, so to speak
Yes. Looks like it.
Will he be going bye bye?
You bet.
Er sorry Sentoryu lost to Taiei Ken, on 11/6/2010.
Henry “Sentoryu” Miller just lost to Taikei Ken according to Sherdog’s fight finder…is that gonna be reflected in next weeks issue?
Thanks…trimming the fat, so to speak
Er sorry Sentoryu lost to Taiei Ken, on 11/6/2010.
Henry “Sentoryu” Miller just lost to Taikei Ken according to Sherdog’s fight finder…is that gonna be reflected in next weeks issue?
dos Santos/Werdum happened how long ago? Oh.. before Werdum beat Fedor.
Talk to StrikeForce about their champion being ranked lower than the contenders. That speaks for their poor champion building process.
dos Santos/Werdum happened how long ago? Oh.. before Werdum beat Fedor.
Talk to StrikeForce about their champion being ranked lower than the contenders. That speaks for their poor champion building process.
dos santos knocked out werdum so how is wedrum ahead of them…. ufc fights should be ranked higher due to level of fighters … who has fedor fought in the last 3 years thats relevant today??? no one plus no one in strike force wants to fight overeem… how can u rank the champ of that company lower than the contenders … strike force n this ranking is a joke
No. Its because of data updates.
How come certain guys (like Brian Heden) drop 50 something spots without losing a fight, and then someone like Francimar Bodao jumps 54 spots without fighting? Is this because some of their past opposition did well or poorly and it effected them?
No. Its because of data updates.
How come certain guys (like Brian Heden) drop 50 something spots without losing a fight, and then someone like Francimar Bodao jumps 54 spots without fighting? Is this because some of their past opposition did well or poorly and it effected them?
We don’t have the Wes Combs fight. Sherdog doesn’t… MixedMartialArts.com doesn’t… ?? We’ll add it in.
He won’t get credit for going the distance with Rogers. He still only won a third of the fight (by rounds), which isn’t enough of a factor to gain rating points in a 3-round fight, regardless of the opponent. However, the win against Combs should get him ranked above Combs for the time being.
Where is Ruben “Warpath” Villarreal on this list?
He just won a title match against Wes Combs who is ranked at #211 on your list. He also just went the distance against Bret Rogers who is ranked at #12, and who has never been taken the distance in any of his fights. Whats up with that?
Agreed. I don’t think Fedor had the recent opposition to keep him and Werdum ahead of Cain/Lesnar. However, I’m not sure you can argue that they deserve to be lower than they are either.
There’s no way in hell that Werdum and Fedor should be #1 and #2 (if anything, they should each be a couple of spots lower than their current listings).
Where is Ruben “Warpath” Villarreal on this list?
He just won a title match against Wes Combs who is ranked at #211 on your list. He also just went the distance against Bret Rogers who is ranked at #12, and who has never been taken the distance in any of his fights. Whats up with that?
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There’s no way in hell that Werdum and Fedor should be #1 and #2 (if anything, they should each be a couple of spots lower than their current listings).
“Looking bad”, doesn’t matter. Only objective results are computed. The computer sees a KO win against a quality opponent in his last fight. Maybe a downfall of computerized systems.. but its fair across the board. Brock’s loss was to an undefeated, rising Heavyweight. Fedor has had a string of weak opponents in recent years, even though he demolished almost all of them.
Thanks again for the replies, Id love to see a detailed breakdown of how the computerised bit works.
The Quality win and the 17% makes sence to me.
Id love to see a detailed breakdown of how the computerised rankings work because Lensar 5-2 better than Fedor 32-2 comfuses me because Fedor has 3 quality win and Lesnar looked so bad in his last two fights… I know Fedor hastn been the most active but I have 1.Werdum 2.Fedor 3.Cain
But Lesnar staying 2nd at 5-2 seems odd, I’d love to see the breakdown if you have them anywhere? Your rankings seem a great Idea and honestly closest thing to a Legit MMA world ranking there is. Im really interested to see a breakdown if you have one or anything on the points because Brock having so many more points than Fedor I cant get my head around seeing as he looked so bad in his last 2 fights. Cheers.
There was a detailed post quite a while back, summing up what was a quality performance. Basically, its an outcome where a fighter fought reasonable opposition and the performance was a quality one. I know that’s broad, but an example would be.. if Cain Velasquez fought #200 in his next bout, regardless of the outcome, it would not be a quality performance. If he fought #11 and won by split decision, this wouldn’t be either — it’d be disappointing. But if he knocked out #5, this would be. Make sense? There’s exact math, but its deep in the code..
When going down a division, points are raised. When going up, vice versa. Its done with a formula and is based on the upper weight-limits of the divisions involved. This change averages about 17% — not huge. This has just been the commonly accepted theme throughout. USUALLY when a fighter moves up, they find it a harder go, and vice versa. Notice the caps on USUALLY – as a computerized outfit, we depend on the norms. The divisional strengths just work their way out, independent of this point change.
Cheers for that JCS your doing a bang up job, really the most complete and accurate rankings ive seen, I make my own rankings and they are very similar.
What qualifies as a Quality performance?
In Wanderlei’s case were his Lhw points worth more than Mw points? How is that worked because some decvisions are stronger than others and is going up a weight different that going down a weight points wise?
Thanks for the reply. Loving the website.
He carried his Light Heavyweight points with him to Middleweight, which are then converted to Middleweight points (increased). Its the only way to make division changes work.
I don’t have a serious issue with his ranking.
I dont quite get how the Points system works, Its a great website but a few things dont add up for me. For example…
Wanderlei is ranked 4th at Mw after 1 win in the devision and a pretty poor previous record. He is my favorite MMA figher but I wonder how he ended up so highly ranked. I have him top 15 in my own rankings but dont understand how he got so maby points after beating Bisping….
Id love to know a bit more in depth of how the points for each fighter are worked out.
Cheers.
“Looking bad”, doesn’t matter. Only objective results are computed. The computer sees a KO win against a quality opponent in his last fight. Maybe a downfall of computerized systems.. but its fair across the board. Brock’s loss was to an undefeated, rising Heavyweight. Fedor has had a string of weak opponents in recent years, even though he demolished almost all of them.
Thanks again for the replies, Id love to see a detailed breakdown of how the computerised bit works.
The Quality win and the 17% makes sence to me.
Id love to see a detailed breakdown of how the computerised rankings work because Lensar 5-2 better than Fedor 32-2 comfuses me because Fedor has 3 quality win and Lesnar looked so bad in his last two fights… I know Fedor hastn been the most active but I have 1.Werdum 2.Fedor 3.Cain
But Lesnar staying 2nd at 5-2 seems odd, I’d love to see the breakdown if you have them anywhere? Your rankings seem a great Idea and honestly closest thing to a Legit MMA world ranking there is. Im really interested to see a breakdown if you have one or anything on the points because Brock having so many more points than Fedor I cant get my head around seeing as he looked so bad in his last 2 fights. Cheers.
There was a detailed post quite a while back, summing up what was a quality performance. Basically, its an outcome where a fighter fought reasonable opposition and the performance was a quality one. I know that’s broad, but an example would be.. if Cain Velasquez fought #200 in his next bout, regardless of the outcome, it would not be a quality performance. If he fought #11 and won by split decision, this wouldn’t be either — it’d be disappointing. But if he knocked out #5, this would be. Make sense? There’s exact math, but its deep in the code..
When going down a division, points are raised. When going up, vice versa. Its done with a formula and is based on the upper weight-limits of the divisions involved. This change averages about 17% — not huge. This has just been the commonly accepted theme throughout. USUALLY when a fighter moves up, they find it a harder go, and vice versa. Notice the caps on USUALLY – as a computerized outfit, we depend on the norms. The divisional strengths just work their way out, independent of this point change.
Cheers for that JCS your doing a bang up job, really the most complete and accurate rankings ive seen, I make my own rankings and they are very similar.
What qualifies as a Quality performance?
In Wanderlei’s case were his Lhw points worth more than Mw points? How is that worked because some decvisions are stronger than others and is going up a weight different that going down a weight points wise?
Thanks for the reply. Loving the website.
He carried his Light Heavyweight points with him to Middleweight, which are then converted to Middleweight points (increased). Its the only way to make division changes work.
I don’t have a serious issue with his ranking.
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Ratings are not division-specific, they are division-adjusted.
i don’t see how Sokoudjou or minowa are even in the top 50, mostly because they are in and out of the heavyweight division. When they do fight heavyweights it is against Bob Sapp/Hong Man Choi types they to me are irrelevant.
Ratings are not division-specific, they are division-adjusted.
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everyone is signed to a muti fight contract, even if you sign a 1 fight deal, if you win it becomes a muti fight contract.
and he’ll likely get another fight and lose than will be cut.
Is Vinicius Kappke de Quieroz gonna be dropped from the UFC now? Does anyone know if he signed a multi fight deal?
He’s definitely on the fast track, which is pretty amazing as he’s doing the best he can for not being in the UFC or Strike Force.
Cole Konrad is really moving up the list. He could be in the top ten before the end of the year.
He’s definitely on the fast track, which is pretty amazing as he’s doing the best he can for not being in the UFC or Strike Force.
Cole Konrad is really moving up the list. He could be in the top ten before the end of the year.
Opposition strength is factored in. For example, Fedor didn’t get a quality performance for beating Hong Man Choi. However, he also didn’t get to #3 beating entirely scrubs. Its just another metric.
Can you be more specific as to the criteria for a “quality performance”? I notice that Fedor Emelianenko’s quality performance percentage is only 54.5, for example, and Josh Barnett’s is 50. This seems low for two very successful fighters, especially considering that Aaron Rosa, just as an example, is at 73.7%.
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Konrad is part of the Bellator HW tourney in the finals, Herman is being stonewalled on the undercard of Bellator, beating Michael Kita (who lost to Damian Grabowski, who lost to Konrad). Whether Herman is a better fighter than Konrad is irrelevant if Konrad is fighting better opposition more frequently.
We’re pretty real… If Konrad over Herman is the worst problem, we are doing awfully good!
We’re pretty real… If Konrad over Herman is the worst problem, we are doing awfully good!
konrad above herman? get real.
konrad above herman? get real.
song for ray mercer . nah nah nah nah,nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey ,good bye!
Mercer could not get medically cleared.
marvin, don’t get too excited. In a few days, he’ll be ranked again (he has another fight comming up).
song for ray mercer . nah nah nah nah,nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey ,good bye!
marvin, don’t get too excited. In a few days, he’ll be ranked again (he has another fight comming up).
woo hoo no more mercer, period
woo hoo no more mercer, period
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Satoshii Ishii’s debut had been a lightning fast knockout over Tim Sylvia, everyone would have been riding his nuts as a definite Top 20 fighter. Everyone would have been proclaiming him the next big thing, and how they couldn’t wait for more fights. The thing about fightmatrix is it’s a computerized system, and as such is completely impartial. There are certainly times where exceptions should be made and where problems might enter the system when one fluke upset happens, shooting that person up the rankings, and then pulling everyone who beats that guy afterwards up the rankings as well, but there are also major problems with sunjective analysis from human rankers as well. I think Fight Matrix provides a good counterbalance.
when does mercer come off the list or at least get moved to # 200+. i dont agree with your response on august 22nd . even if mercer was a 22 year old prospect he still should not be rated in the top 20 after one lucky knockout. as proof i see many young fighters in your rankings that are 5-0 and up to 13-0 that are outside the top 20 or even top 100.and also mercer is not a 22 year old he is a washed up boxer who caught silvia on an off night and got a lucky punchers ko.
EASILY. Fedor was NUMBER ONE and Werdum beating Fedor happened after JDS beat WERDUM. Should we rank Sylvia over Arlovski still?
HOW CAN YOU RANK WERDUM ABOVE JDS AFTER JDS KNOCKED HIM OUT? these rankings are biast in favour of fedor. Cain, JDS and Shane should be above werdum and fedor
EASILY. Fedor was NUMBER ONE and Werdum beating Fedor happened after JDS beat WERDUM. Should we rank Sylvia over Arlovski still?
HOW CAN YOU RANK WERDUM ABOVE JDS AFTER JDS KNOCKED HIM OUT? these rankings are biast in favour of fedor. Cain, JDS and Shane should be above werdum and fedor
Grabowski def didn’t do enough. Do takedowns not count for anything anymore? Strikes from the bottom? Those strikes were better than Barrett’s, yes. Barrett, however, scored multiple takedowns and controlled position for much of the fight (except for the scrambles where Grabowski gained dominant positions and submissions). Barrett deserved 29-28, end of story.
when you get outstuck from the bottom and can’t pass guard or really do anything from top position you don’t deserve to win the fight. Your post is terrible. You should be thanking the judges for finally rewarding someone who won a fight off of his back and actually have the knowledge to give him the fight.
when you get outstuck from the bottom and can’t pass guard or really do anything from top position you don’t deserve to win the fight. Your post is terrible. You should be thanking the judges for finally rewarding someone who won a fight off of his back and actually have the knowledge to give him the fight.
Damian Grabowski should have lost that match. Horrible call by the judges. Neil Grove is astud and should be ranked higher. Bobby lashley’s loss was a suprise, and probly helps Lesnar more. Meaning that more and more WWE superstars are trying to go MMA. If he would have won that match probly even more would have gone MMA. The more that suceed in the MMA probly means less in dominance for Lesnar, but the fact that if he’s the only WWe fighter to go MMA and actualy be chamnpion and have a good career will put his legacy that much higher up.
So to from Lesnar, thank you Lashley for the loss.
Damian Grabowski should have lost that match. Horrible call by the judges. Neil Grove is astud and should be ranked higher. Bobby lashley’s loss was a suprise, and probly helps Lesnar more. Meaning that more and more WWE superstars are trying to go MMA. If he would have won that match probly even more would have gone MMA. The more that suceed in the MMA probly means less in dominance for Lesnar, but the fact that if he’s the only WWe fighter to go MMA and actualy be chamnpion and have a good career will put his legacy that much higher up.
So to from Lesnar, thank you Lashley for the loss.
Werdum beat a legend and deserves the #2 spot, as painful as that sounds. Other than his KO loss to JDS, he has been impressive lately, especially during the Gonzaga rematch. Hope he’ll rematch Overeem.
Werdum beat a legend and deserves the #2 spot, as painful as that sounds. Other than his KO loss to JDS, he has been impressive lately, especially during the Gonzaga rematch. Hope he’ll rematch Overeem.
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wow he must look fat at HW, I know he used to fight there back in the day I think..
wow he must look fat at HW, I know he used to fight there back in the day I think..
Yes. In fact, two of his last three fights were at HW.
Why is Babyface Dewees listed in the HW rankings? Was his last fight against Eric McElroy at HW?
Yes. In fact, two of his last three fights were at HW.
Why is Babyface Dewees listed in the HW rankings? Was his last fight against Eric McElroy at HW?
Look around, he’s #78
jon madsen needs to be on here
jon madsen needs to be on here
Did you miss Werdum/Fedor???
How can you rank Fabricio Werdum above JDS after Dos Santos knocked him out and would proberbly knock him out again
How can you rank Fabricio Werdum above JDS after Dos Santos knocked him out and would proberbly knock him out again
The loss to Kimbo was not an official pro bout, plus it wouldn’t affect Mercer’s win over Sylvia as it came prior.
In reality, if Mercer was a 22 year old MMA phenom prospect, there would be no beef about his placement.
Mercer won’t stay on the list for 11 days, but he’d come back on it somewhere.. depending on the result.
but that will be 11 days to late to stay on the list , right? can’t we just count his tapout loss to kimbo too?
NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! aagghh please someone kill me!! only hope sparks doesn’t try to stand and bang with him.. please sparks if you look at this site. please please take him down and pound him out or choke him out , please!!!
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Yeah but….
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=mmajunkie-Ray_Mercer_Ron_Sparks_King_Cage_September
one more month of having to see ray mercers name on the list of top mma heavyweights, sept cannot come soon enough!!!!! hey jcs is my math right, does he gets kicked off on sept 6th?
one more month of having to see ray mercers name on the list of top mma heavyweights, sept cannot come soon enough!!!!! hey jcs is my math right, does he gets kicked off on sept 6th?
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Heres the thing, you can’t beat Lesnar on the ground. he’s improving his sumbmissions and his wrestling is phenominal. You probly aren’t gonna be able to knock him out, considering the hardest hitting heavyweight wailed on him for a whole round and still won. So the only way to beat him is going to go the distance, by out fighting him. That’s gonna be hard becasue he’s gonna eventually take you down. His power, speed, and size is enough to take you down, but to go with technique, your finished. You aren’t gonna be able to stop that. Another way is to get lucky and catch him with a submission (Mir).
In my eyes Lesnar is the heavyweight in the UFC and possibly MMA. HE gonan dominate that weaight class for a while, and is gonna be a powerhouse. Could own that divison like GSP and Silva does. If he can work on his standup game, wow…He could be the best heavweight ever.
Heres the thing, you can’t beat Lesnar on the ground. he’s improving his sumbmissions and his wrestling is phenominal. You probly aren’t gonna be able to knock him out, considering the hardest hitting heavyweight wailed on him for a whole round and still won. So the only way to beat him is going to go the distance, by out fighting him. That’s gonna be hard becasue he’s gonna eventually take you down. His power, speed, and size is enough to take you down, but to go with technique, your finished. You aren’t gonna be able to stop that. Another way is to get lucky and catch him with a submission (Mir).
In my eyes Lesnar is the heavyweight in the UFC and possibly MMA. HE gonan dominate that weaight class for a while, and is gonna be a powerhouse. Could own that divison like GSP and Silva does. If he can work on his standup game, wow…He could be the best heavweight ever.
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Cain Velazquez is a great fighter/brawler/wrestler. He’s not going to knock Brock Lesnar out for sure, unless he takes him the full five rounds with the “stick & move”!!! That’s a hard thing to do because Lesnar is quick and will surely get Velazquez down on his back where his size and strenght will be too much for the “Brown Pride”. Hey, you never know though…….
WOW All along, I really though Shane Carwin was going to KO Lesnar really badly in the 1st round!!! I was in awe when Lesnar took those power punches to his grill and still managed to get out of that round on his feet. Sure, his face looked like “stir fried shit”, but he came out and submitted an already exhausted Carwin really quickly in the second round. Shane now understands that Lesnar’s head is harder than a brick wall WOW
Cain Velazquez is a great fighter/brawler/wrestler. He’s not going to knock Brock Lesnar out for sure, unless he takes him the full five rounds with the “stick & move”!!! That’s a hard thing to do because Lesnar is quick and will surely get Velazquez down on his back where his size and strenght will be too much for the “Brown Pride”. Hey, you never know though…….
It’s not always that straightforward.. but in that scenario, you are probably right.
If say Pat Barry beat dos Santos, he would not be ahead of Carwin.
So if Frank Mir were to beat Dos Santos he would be ahead of Carwin?
So if Frank Mir were to beat Dos Santos he would be ahead of Carwin?
Because Werdum beat Fedor afterward…
So your saying if Todd Duffe at 49 beats Lesnar, then Duffe would go all the way into the top 10? Which would possibly mean Lesnar is out. Thats retarted.
Ok well how come Dos Santos beat Werdum, but Werdum is higher than Dos Santos?
Because Werdum beat Fedor afterward…
So your saying if Todd Duffe at 49 beats Lesnar, then Duffe would go all the way into the top 10? Which would possibly mean Lesnar is out. Thats retarted.
Ok well how come Dos Santos beat Werdum, but Werdum is higher than Dos Santos?
Our primary rule is that the winner of a fight must be ranked higher than the loser directly after the fight. This is why Werdum is above Fedor.
Lesnar proved not only that he is deserves to be the champ, but that he can take a punishment. Sure his stand up HORRIBLE. But we all saw that comming. He also proved that he can take a beating, and that his days in the WWE means he’s a puss. He went out there and got destroyed in the first round. But then came back in the 2nd and proved he’s a real champion. He took his beaten and didn’t give up. He also showed how tramendacly well conditioned he is. It takes a lot to give a pounding, but also takes just as much if not more to take a pounding like he did.
If he works on his standup and his submissions, then he could be one of the best pound for pound best fighters in the UFC and possibly MMA. If he would have not gone to the WWE and tried MMA he could be one of the greatest Heavy’s of all time. Then the UFC could only dream of a Fedor-Lesnar fight like boxing dreams of a Pacquiao-Mayweather match.
Lesnar deserves to be the best Heavyweight. He’s the UFC champion, and right now it looks as if he could dominate for a while. As I do think Fedor is better, he did lose. I think he’s the best Heavyweight…Ever. But he lost, which should drop him down the rankings a bit. I just don’t agree with Werdum being #2. Here’s my rankings…
1)Lesnar
2)Fedor
3)Velasquez
4)Werdum
5)Carwin
6)Overeem
7)Dos Santos
8)Barnett
9)Mir
10)Nog
Lesnar deserves to be the best Heavyweight. He’s the UFC champion, and right now it looks as if he could dominate for a while. As I do think Fedor is better, he did lose. I think he’s the best Heavyweight…Ever. But he lost, which should drop him down the rankings a bit. I just don’t agree with Werdum being #2. Here’s my rankings…
1)Lesnar
2)Fedor
3)Velasquez
4)Werdum
5)Carwin
6)Overeem
7)Dos Santos
8)Barnett
9)Mir
10)Nog
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Lesnar did a good job (relly did, real man), but still, don’t fucking belive this ranking (not that i am a Russian)but it’s relly suck. Look all Ya to this ranking and look to the won matches and think again, is it right? Where Fedor stays!!!
But who am I? ufc 116 was good, must watch it all!
The Rankings are great, just glad Ray Mercer is not a head of Fedor that would be absurd. Dave Herman is a great heavyweight prospect BTW, hope he will be in the Bellator heavyweight tournament.
Here’s my 2 cents…
– JDS should be above Cain.
– MMA fans under estimate Overeem to much, although as a person it’s ok to dislike him I guess.
– Because Werdum won over Fedor, Brock (4-1-0) isn´t better than Fedor (31-(1?!)2-0).
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ALISTAIR OVEREEM IS A TOP 10 QUALITY HEAVYWEIGHT. NO DOUBT, BUT I’VE SEEN ALL OF HIS LOSSES BY KNOCKOUT AND CAN’T HELP BUT THINK THAT HIS NOODLE IS CRACKED. ALL I’M SAYING IS THAT FIGHTERS THAT GET KO’D TOO MANY TIMES NEVER RECOVER NEOROGLOGICALLY. IT’S JUST A FACT. ALL OF THOSE HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTERS RANKED ABOVE HIME DESERVE TO BE. BOTH EMELIANENKO BOTHERS, OVEREEM, SILVA, ROGERS, AND WERDUM SHOULD COME THE UFC WHERE THE REAL CHALLENGERS ARE. OH I FORGOT! WERDUM ALMOST LOST HIS HEAD IN THE RING AGAINST DOS SANTOS!!! SCRATCH THAT!!!
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ALISTAIR OVEREEM IS A TOP 10 QUALITY HEAVYWEIGHT. NO DOUBT, BUT I’VE SEEN ALL OF HIS LOSSES BY KNOCKOUT AND CAN’T HELP BUT THINK THAT HIS NOODLE IS CRACKED. ALL I’M SAYING IS THAT FIGHTERS THAT GET KO’D TOO MANY TIMES NEVER RECOVER NEOROGLOGICALLY. IT’S JUST A FACT. ALL OF THOSE HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTERS RANKED ABOVE HIME DESERVE TO BE. BOTH EMELIANENKO BOTHERS, OVEREEM, SILVA, ROGERS, AND WERDUM SHOULD COME THE UFC WHERE THE REAL CHALLENGERS ARE. OH I FORGOT! WERDUM ALMOST LOST HIS HEAD IN THE RING AGAINST DOS SANTOS!!! SCRATCH THAT!!!
Overeem will destroy every fighter on this list. Overeem is the best all-round fighter atm, both in K-1 and MMA.
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Overeem will destroy every fighter on this list. Overeem is the best all-round fighter atm, both in K-1 and MMA.
I heard that Soukoudjou was getting annihilated by Dave Herman before that illegal/accidental knee to the head. Dave “Pee Wee Herman” is RAW talent and will be a very good heavyweight fighter if he gets the right training.
People shouldn’t be so surprised at Fedor’s humiliating defeat this past weekend. He hadn’t fought any fighter close to that caliber in a long time. Werdum is an opportunist and knew exactly what to do when Fedor tried to pound him out. He expected Fedor to go for the kill because everybody, including his striking coach did and Werdum wanted the fight to be off his back ASAP. Too much pressure was on Fedor to make quick work of Werdum and I don’t understand why. Werdum is extremely confident, patient, and dangerous. He was in good spirits throughout the entire card knowing all to well exactly what Fedor was going to do and exactly how he was going to counter-act it. UFC has the better heavyweights by far and that’s why Werdum went to Strikeforce after getting nearly decapitated by Junior Dos Santos. I don’t have a problem with the rankings other than Brock Lesnar being out of the cage for awhile, not having enough fights under his belt or knockout power on his feet. Shane Carwin will surely knock his block off. Junior Dos Santos and Cain Velazquez should fight to determine the next heavyweight title challenger! Werdum and Emelianenko should be behind the superior Velazquez and Dos Santos in the new rankings. Strikforce, take a back seat to the UFC please.
I heard that Soukoudjou was getting annihilated by Dave Herman before that illegal/accidental knee to the head. Dave “Pee Wee Herman” is RAW talent and will be a very good heavyweight fighter if he gets the right training.
People shouldn’t be so surprised at Fedor’s humiliating defeat this past weekend. He hadn’t fought any fighter close to that caliber in a long time. Werdum is an opportunist and knew exactly what to do when Fedor tried to pound him out. He expected Fedor to go for the kill because everybody, including his striking coach did and Werdum wanted the fight to be off his back ASAP. Too much pressure was on Fedor to make quick work of Werdum and I don’t understand why. Werdum is extremely confident, patient, and dangerous. He was in good spirits throughout the entire card knowing all to well exactly what Fedor was going to do and exactly how he was going to counter-act it. UFC has the better heavyweights by far and that’s why Werdum went to Strikeforce after getting nearly decapitated by Junior Dos Santos. I don’t have a problem with the rankings other than Brock Lesnar being out of the cage for awhile, not having enough fights under his belt or knockout power on his feet. Shane Carwin will surely knock his block off. Junior Dos Santos and Cain Velazquez should fight to determine the next heavyweight title challenger! Werdum and Emelianenko should be behind the superior Velazquez and Dos Santos in the new rankings. Strikforce, take a back seat to the UFC please.
anyway Fedor is the best…he is the first…
rank doesnt show anything… fight shows who is the best…
Could you explain the formula for your ranking system?
Some of these comments are hilarious. Personally, I think it should be Lesnar, Carwin, Velasquez, Dos Santos, Werdum and Fedor, in that order. But these rankings aren’t bad at all.
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Some of these comments are hilarious. Personally, I think it should be Lesnar, Carwin, Velasquez, Dos Santos, Werdum and Fedor, in that order. But these rankings aren’t bad at all.
made by clowns for the number one clown : broke lessnar
As you can see by all the comments. We cannot please everyone.
We suck for not having Fedor still in 1st, not having him outside the Top 10, and not having him around #7.
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These rankings are an absolute joke.
Werdum belongs at about #8, and Fedor doesn’t belong in the top 10, because if you haven’t beaten a Top 10 HW in the last 5 years what the hell are you doing there?
I want to see these idiots rank baseball. They’d probably make the White Sox #1 because they won the World Series in 2005.
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ok fedor is not number one anymore, not that is not the problem i am sick of seeing ray mercer at 13 he is a boxer who had one fight, all the fighters behind him are far more deserving then that piece of beep
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