Issue #18

It has been a personal hobby of mine to keep a pound-for-pound boxing list to compare with those of others, including those of major publications. Like in the computerized system, I try to put neutrality first and determine who the very best fighters of the world are, independent of weight divisions.

1. Floyd Mayweather

2. Manny Pacquiao

3. Wladimir Klitschko

4. Bernard Hopkins

5. Paul Williams

6. Sergio Martinez

7. Juan Manuel Marquez

8. Chad Dawson

9. Juan Manuel Lopez

10. Shane Mosley

Rounding out the Top 25

11. Lucian Bute

12. Tim Bradley

13. Kelly Pavlik

14. Nonito Donaire

15. Rafael Marquez

16. Celestino Caballero

17. Chris John

18. Vitali Klitschko

19. David Haye

20. Tomasz Adamek

21. Andre Ward

22. Andre Dirrell

23. Fernando Montiel

24. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam

25. Amir Khan

Last Updated: August 6, 2010

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Comments (19)

19 Responses to “JCS’s Boxing P4P List”

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  1. Michael Lee Says:

    The list is obviously biased here’s my list:
    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Floyd Mayweather
    3. Vitali Klitschko
    4. wladimir Klitschko
    5. Juan Manuel Marquez
    6. Chad Dawson
    7. Nonito Donaire
    8. Bernard Hopkins
    9. Sugar Shane Mosley
    10. Juan Manuel Lopez

  2. UFC Boxing Fights Says:

    Why put Mayweather on #1 based on how he win on against Marquez? Did you forgot how Pacquiao toyed Cotto who beat Mosley who rocked him on round 2? If that is your way of ranking your pound for pound list, why don’t you put Juan Manuel Lopez in your No. 1 for being undefeated and win a 2 Round TKO against younger Concepcion?

  3. jcs Says:

    I’m not going to get in a pissing match. I was a boxing fan before an MMA fan. JMM was not grossly out of shape when he fought Floyd and seriously doubt it took him that much effort to get to 142, figuring he drained from the mid 140s (or more) down to 135 for his Lightweight bouts. Muscles don’t equal belts. I thought that when I just got into the sport, but after about six months I learned that physiques didn’t mean much and they still don’t. It just so happens that almost all professional boxers competing for titles are in shape.

  4. Clint Pew Says:

    I really don’t think you quite understand what I’m driving at. JMM was 36 when he fought Floyd. He attempted to add enough mass to jump two weight divisions and fight for the first time ever at WW…at the age of 36. Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge when it comes to nutrition could see he struggled getting to that weight and didn’t do it correctly. A big part of this is because he’s a 36 year old natural lightweight. It’s a lot harder to properly put on mass at that age without losing speed and energy. And about muscle…how many pudgy soft out of shape sluggish champs do you see holding belts? I can’t think of any.

    If you can’t take the criticism, don’t put yourself out there to be criticized. Either that or do your homework.

  5. jcs Says:

    I wish someone would hire me as a boxing commentator! This is merely an opinionated list.

    BTW, does more muscle mean that a boxer is more likely to succeed? Interesting.

    Keep your criticism constructive and stop the insults.

  6. Clint Pew Says:

    If you don’t factor in the fact that a 36 year old boxer was moving up two weight classes for the first time…well, then you have no business commentating on boxing and sure the hell haven’t ever boxed a day in your life. One thing is a guy in his late 20’s or early 30’s putting on weight this drastic at an elite level of boxing but it’s an entirely other level for a 36 year old with the frame of JMM to do it. Did that look like muscle to you? The fact that you don’t “buy it” tells me you have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to this sport.

  7. jcs Says:

    Sorry, I don’t buy into the “natural weight” excuse as much as most. Marquez had absolutely nothing for Floyd. Nothing. Everything you stated doesn’t explain why Marquez arguably beat Manny twice, but couldn’t even touch Floyd.

  8. Clint Pew Says:

    “If there is any question who will win Floyd-Pacquiao, just watch their performances against JM Marquez.”

    If you want to be taken seriously as a boxing analyst, erase this comment. Pacquiao fought JMM at his natural weight and when he was in his prime. Mayweather fought a 36 year old bloated super featherweight/lightweight who was fighting for the first time ever at WW and Floyd came in over the agreed weight limit on top of that. He followed up fighting a 36 year old bloated lightweight by fighting a 39 year old Mosley on a 16 month layoff. Both fighters way past their prime. Nevermind the fact Floyd “retired” years ago to avoid Mosley in his prime.

    Maybe Floyd could beat Manny, but we’ll never know due to Floyd’s lack of a backbone. Regardless the reason you gave is pure ignorance.

  9. Brandon Says:

    If they update this, Floyd would be even more of a lock for #1… he just destroyed Moseley!!!

  10. Tilden Thorne Says:

    I think this list is well thought out, I just posted my top five elsewhere… found this and thought close! Good job!
    Here is mine
    1) Manny Pacquiao
    2) Vitali Klitschko “WBC Hardest Puncher Ever, Honor”
    3) Floyd Mayweather, I think he ducked Manny… big move down!
    4) Bernard Hopkins, I don’t like him… but is a BAD MAN!
    5) Wladimir Klitschko, dominated his division for a decade!
    Honorable Mention: Kelly Pavlik, he is still making them look like bums!!! Just my opinions though…

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